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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iangj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2010 at 6:40AM
OK, I just got them today. Shorten up the steel part like Jim said and you're good to go!!
First pic shows the original one at the left (2 parts) with the new one (bottom only) to the right

2nd pic shows the new one (bottom only) on the left and an old CV one beside it (both parts)

3rd pic is looking down at all of them.


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So stock it is fatter/taller than the original Torino bushing, cut the center like showed and it will be same height as stock Torino.
 
How much FATTER does it get after it is torqued down compared to the original Torino?
Will the extra fattness cause an issue anywhere? Like inside the frame rail rubbing the sides causing premature failure?
 
Other premature failure question is... if we SQUISH it further than it was intended will it cause premature failure or splitting?
 
Can you cut down the new bushing to Torino height same as the center sleeve to make it SQUISH OUT less to make it work better?
 
I guess asking about OVER tension on the rubber it is not designed to handle?
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It isn't "squished" to the point I would worry. It's my 
opinion that using this new mount this way should 
work perfectly. And the best part is you can use the
old bolts.
As far as all your questions cowboy, I don't know if any
one could answer accurately. I know this is what I plan
to do with no worries. 
The body is supported to the frame by the rubber bushing, 
and this way, will reduce body roll over the stock bushings 
but be a little softer than the poly bushings. Sounds like a 
win - win to me. Which is good.
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Thanks Jim!
 
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We'll know real soon. I bought the bushings as described and cut the metal tube to the 1.25" height. Have them lined up for the body install in the next few days. Sorry the picture didn't work too well. I've got ten of them out on the body held in place with some extremely light and tacky glue to ease installation.

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Question - can anyone tell me the space between the inner part of the frame and the body when the body is installed?

I want to run a -8AN line down the inside of the passenger side frame rail. This line is about 5/8" to 3/4" OD and wish to know if there is that much space available between the frame and body.

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Ron-
Factory lines on the Torino, are a 3/8" line, I would think you should have clearance on you lines.
Let me go crawl under mine.
Be back in a few.

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Damn, cold out there. I had to do the ole finger check. With my 3/8" line, I got one of my fat fingers in between the line and the body. I am guessing at this point, you are only going to have maybe 7/8" of an inch.
Sorry it's not more exacting...but I have too much junk on the floor to really lay down and check right now.

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Thank you, that is helpful and I think it is enough space as along as I keep the line tight to the frame.
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what's the harm in installing the CV bushings un-modified?
 
other than shimming the core support to match(which i need to do anyway) and having enough room to run my -10 fuel return line on top of the frame... slightly longer bolts if needed doesn't seem like a deal breaker. i'm not doing a Pebble Beach resto 
 
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Even with an OEM bushing I managed to run -8 an (well 1/2" aluminum) line in the OEM fuel line location. 
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Don't forget the small bushings on the frame side rails!
They are not bolt in, they go right about where your butt sits in the car to avoid any body/frame flex on that long run from front bushing to rear bushing.
It is rectangular shaped
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Originally posted by cowboyupdjcarl cowboyupdjcarl wrote:

Don't forget the small bushings on the frame side rails!
They are not bolt in, they go right about where your butt sits in the car to avoid any body/frame flex on that long run from front bushing to rear bushing.

It is rectangular shaped


This is the reason for modifying the mounts.
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maybe i should stick to the measurements given here
and shim evenly if needed for clearance. i'll also check my 72 factory manual to confirm, if the info is there
 
i'm not opposed to the Gasser look & have no sympathy for low profile 'rubber band on a rim' tires! not that i'm gonna do a 4" body lift either...
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I would ensure you cut the new springs to the stock height as described.
that way EVERYTHING lines up!
 
If the busings are taller then you have ALOT more adjustments to make...
Rear might not fit correct at rear bumper valance fuel neck area
That bushing I mentioned won't work
The header panel will need shimming but that could cause issues with the fan hitting the shroud.
Then you have the front bumper might not line up! The shims and slots are not designed for much up and down movement.
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Below is a picture of one of the Crown Vic body insulator bushings mounted on my 72 GT. I think they worked great, but I have no idea if they are "right" or not.  They all installed easily and I used my old bolts. I did cut the units down as described by the original poster.  Seems there is about 1/2 to 5/8" between the body and the frame.  Don't know if that is too much, or too little, but it seems ok.



I appreciate you guys going to the trouble to find the parts and recommend them. Thanks much,

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Looks great!! glad we found a mount that will work!
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looks great!
I wonder if I dipped the washers in a rubber coating if it would help reduce any body noise and also help not rust the spacer/washer or metal rub through the paint?
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i will cut an old bicycle air chamber to the shape of the washer just to make sure to don't scratch the paint
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Originally posted by cowboyupdjcarl cowboyupdjcarl wrote:

looks great!
I wonder if I dipped the washers in a rubber coating if it would help reduce any body noise and also help not rust the spacer/washer or metal rub through the paint?

I honestly don't think rubber coating the washers will make any difference at all because you still have the mount to cushion. 
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