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the 2 that make continuity when in park and neutral... on the dash harness connector side... jump those terminals together, see if the car starts?? if so just connect them together! the NSS prevents the small solenoid engage wire from getting power unless it's in P or N Wink
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Got the neutral safety switch wired up per the schematic.  Now having troubles re-installing the left header.


I just can't get the header to snake/wiggle from underneath between the steering box and the bell housing. No room to go down from the top.

Any help advice would be greatly appreciated..


Fyi.....the blue connector on the NSS with the purple and green wire is for the seat belt buzzer safety feature.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-September-2017 at 10:11AM
Unbolt left engine mount from the frame. Loosen right frame thru-bolt but do not remove.
Raise engine on left side so it pivots on right mount.
This moves it up and to the right at the same time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BackInBlack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-September-2017 at 10:28AM
Where is a good place to jack the engine?   there isn't a flange on the block like on the passenger side to jack it.   I was thinking about that as well...but couldnt find a safe place to jack the engine.   Only the edge of the oil pan...   fuel pump, oil filter. etc all in the way

I guess the other option is removing the power steering gearbox...but that's a major pain in the tush.


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use a piece of thick plywood or 1x4 wood between the oil pan and the jack, with the bolt loose and the other out like randy said, jack it up Wink
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Ok thanks...I'll try it tomorrow morning.   Headers and exhaust...then I fire it up with the 5 speed  Big smile
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Clap hmm video maybe?!!!!Wink
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Hook an engine hoist to the drivers side.
Put a block under the mount before you put your hands under there.
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Thanks for the tips...jacked and blocked....got the headers on. That was a pain...but was easier than aligning the bell housing!

The new headers are great....no more clearance problems and tucks the exhaust up nicely close to cross member; allowing to lower the car without scraping.

Edit: forgot to mention that there are tabs on the block on both sides where you can jack it.  I had to remove the oil filter to jack on the driver side block tab.  


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74 CORVETTE COUPE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
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i usually have the headers set in place before the engine lowers in Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BackInBlack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-September-2017 at 10:38AM
I'll definitely do that when I rebuild the motor.   I have to do everything the hard way...its a family curse.  Lol.  I'm trying to build and assemble the major stuff before painting.   Exhaust with valence cutouts and AC condensor mods to the radiator support and body mods are next before painting.

I'm doing the motor last.   I'm doing things somewhat out of order due to lack of $$$.  I figure the motor will prolly cost $6k+.   Have to save up first.


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I can't wait to hear what you think of the TKO, especially high rpm shifts. 
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I hear its notchy like a truck.

Here is the Tremec in the car

Fits with no extra mods.  Although I had to get a new driveshaft.  The tailhousing is shorter than the old torino transmissions.

Here is a front shot with the new headers.   Clearance is much improved; ready to lower the car.



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Looks awesome John.  Really nice work as always.
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Nice work! How is the shifter location for the console?
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It actually fits as if it was designed to fit in the Torino.   Shifter is almost center in the floor shifter hole.  Its about 1/2 back.  Everything bolted up no problem.   Trans mount is a 1973 mustang trans mount which has slots to allow some variance front to back.   the only thing I had to change was the drive shaft; it was about 2.5" to short.   Went to a local shop that build driveshafts for commercial trucks (dump trucks etc).  The guy did a great job, perfect welds, spot on.   The new shaft is 3.5" diameter vs that tapered stock version still using 1330 u-joints. front and rear.

C6 front yoke (31spline) works for newer TKOs;  and you can get a 28 spline front yoke for the older Tremec no problem.

FYI.  Headers are from Ford Powertrain Applications.   He builds some really nice headers, very high quality.  They were expensive but he is the only guy building them to fit perfectly on 72+ Torinos.   I couldn't lower the car with the old headers.


For those interested:  Here is a comparison shot of the Hooker comp set (silver) vs the FPA headers




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