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It has 130K on it. The transmission is brand new (5 miles when I got it, now has about 100) and the engine had a valve job, lifters/cam/springs (Summit), timing chain and oil pump a number of years ago. I am rebuilding the carb, installing a spare starter and the old radiator out of my '74 Cougar next week and this car could be driven pretty much anywhere. The dual exhaust is in great shape but the mufflers are loud. Like a pair of old Smitty's, loud. They bark when you start it, bark when you blip the throttle and blat when you get on it. They get almost silent when you are just cruising along or coasting, but can wake the dead when you accelerate. I have a video of it idling below.

Edited by unlovedford - 04-May-2017 at 2:15AM
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sounds like my kind of car, nice and obnoxious LOL
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LOL!!  sounds like the fiberglass has burned out of those a long time ago, reminds of a dodge truck I used to have when I lived in yuppieland s fl, it would set of car alarms on start up lol
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Shocked That sounds like a big block race engine or something Big smile
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I think if you look closely you'll find there are no pipes between the manifolds and the mufflers. On second thought, are you sure it even has manifolds?

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That's the way mine drives, just like a regular car, nice smooth ride, seems a little soft in tight curves, but that is to be expected with a soft ride suspension. After the steering head upgrade, it's easy to forget you are in a 40 + year old car that hasn't had all the latest suspension mods. I might upgrade my sway bars to give a little better handling on the back roads, but I'm happy other than that. 
 
You might try the color match spray can system on those primer spots, a single stage paint like what came originally on the car might not be noticed as being thicker than the rest of the paint. Just a thought, since the rest of the paint looks like it will polish up nice.
 
Now for that exhaust, LOL, yep, that's loud. Here I am struggling to figure out why my flow mast 40's are not as loud as others I hear and you are waking the dead with yours. I don't know what is wrong with mine, but yours seems to defiantly be burned out, doesn't really fit the look of the car.
 
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Sounds just like when I was a teen and my 1969 Ford LTD XL sportsroof I bought needed a motor and trans so I put a 351W / C4 from my 1970 LTD after the frame broke and all I had money for was 2 three foot lengths of flex pipe and 2 thrush mufflers wired to the frame....

In other words...COOL AF!!!!
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My Thunderbird needs to sound like that.
 
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Randy, I'd trade exhaust!

Casey, my gold '72 460 has 2.5 inch aluminized exhaust, H pipe and flowmaster 40. Sounded great but quieter than I expected when I got it home from Allan's. The H pipe calmed it a bit. However, when we installed the cam setup, it really added a great metallic upgrade. I absolutely love it, but driving 70 on the interstate for several hours is a wee tiring. Keep in mind that I had the pipes run out to the sides behind the rear tires, so it is a bit louder. When I install the D0VE heads, I have been told it will sound even more aggressive. I shot a video, but the sound is very distorted when I rev the engine, due to the sound volume of the exhaust. This '76 is a 351W with a small Summit cam set and full exhaust in great shape, but the glasspacks are probably empty now. No holes, just no fiberglass left in them. I may install the 17/18 inch Bullits this week to help the look of the '76, but you are correct, this sound is not a good match for this car. Perhaps a pair of Turbo mufflers I have on hand?

Edited by unlovedford - 07-May-2017 at 12:31PM
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Well the D0VE heads should up the CR a bit if its on D3's right now....if you want it to sound real aggressive though you need true dual 3" pipes with dynomax race bullets Wink

Thats the way forward for big block exhausts! Or just fender dumps.....
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It is actually far more loud and hollow sounding than the video illustrates. It literally bellows. I had a '72 with a 302, headers, 2.5 inch pipe, 40's and full exhaust out the back with 3 inch tips. It sounded good, but not nearly as loud as this car. Pipe placement, displacement and pipe diameter play a key role.
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Originally posted by unlovedford unlovedford wrote:


Casey, my gold '72 460 has 2.5 inch aluminized exhaust, H pipe and flowmaster 40. Sounded great but quieter than I expected when I got it home from Allan's. The H pipe calmed it a bit. However, when we installed the cam setup, it really added a great metallic upgrade. I absolutely love it, but driving 70 on the interstate for several hours is a wee tiring. Keep in mind that I had the pipes run out to the sides behind the rear tires, so it is a bit louder. When I install the D0VE heads, I have been told it will sound even more aggressive. I shot a video, but the sound is very distorted when I rev the engine, due to the sound volume of the exhaust. This '76 is a 351W with a small Summit cam set and full exhaust in great shape, but the glasspacks are probably empty now. No holes, just no fiberglass left in them. I may install the 17/18 inch Bullits this week to help the look of the '76, but you are correct, this sound is not a good match for this car. Perhaps a pair of Turbo mufflers I have on hand?
 
Bullits and Turbo mufflers will be great upgrades. When I said "burned out", I was meaning the glass packs were empty.
 
I have 2.25 exhaust. My car had single 2.25 on it down the passengers side, my parts car used to have duals 2.25 but the passengers side was missing. I cut the factory cross over right where the drivers dual pipe would pass by and used the drivers side pipe off the parts car back to where the factory muffler location is. I used a hole saw and cut a hole in the drivers side pipe in line with the stub of the factory cross over and welded the factory cross over to it, making a "H" pipe, kinda. It's more like a "X Y H" combo LOL. It does the same thing for balancing the two sides and getting rid of the trashy pop back, but I was beginning to wonder if that is why it is so quite in comparison to other Flowmaster 40s I've heard. The 40s are clamped on at the factory locations with 2.25 turn downs just ahead of the rear differential. I should shoot you a picture, it doesn't look bad, it's just different.













 


Edited by M Casey Stock - 09-May-2017 at 3:53AM
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Have decided to either sell this car or the gold '72 Formal. Whichever sells, I'll keep the other. Price on this one is $3,500 or close offer. I would take $7,800 on the gold '72.
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As nice as this '76 is, I hope it's the one that goes first.  Would love to see you finish the '72.
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X2 what vince said
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I love the '72 and have really put a lot of love into it. However, I have a chance to buy one of my dream cars and need some space. Just thinking about it makes me giddy.
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There'll be other Dodge Omnis.
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Originally posted by stanman stanman wrote:

There'll be other Dodge Omnis.
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