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Soooo....I took the plunge, he is going to put a cam, lifters and timing assembly in as well, so my mechanic does not have to do too much. Basically it worked out to 1400 bucks. He is going to put a torky cam in it.
Here are a couple of quotes from him"

"Perfect choice for your CLASSIC Gran Torino Sport! The dished forged pistons will deliver 9.5to1 compression ratio, with your 4v heads, perfect for todays unleaded fuel. Recommend a cam with 218-228 degrees duration at .050" on 112`LSA, for best street performance, delivering a loping sound in the exhaust, with enough vacuum to properly operate the power brakes."

"I would use a dual pattern camshaft, with shorter intake duration with wide 114 degree lobe separation angle, creating higher cylinder pressure and TORQUE!!"


Lets us pray...Beer





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Ok... So he's going thru the bottom end? Bearings, rings,oil pump....etc?
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Originally posted by 72GTS351CJ 72GTS351CJ wrote:

Ok... So he's going thru the bottom end? Bearings, rings,oil pump....etc?


It is already built-brought from e bay. Not having the guy who quoted 5k doing it, getting this instead:




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Oh.OK. For a minute I thought you were putting a cam in your old engine with out going thru it.
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Engine on its way. :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nuggets Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-March-2017 at 9:51AM
I notice it says dished pistons, did you check how many CC the dishes are? If not you may end up with a dog of an engine!
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The dish has a volume of -10cc, including the valve notches.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MrSmog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-March-2017 at 2:10AM
You have closed chamber heads to use off your other engine though, right?
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Yes
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rough guesstimate 9:1 using 66cc chambers, .030" deck clearance and .040" gaskets
change the chambers to 63cc and you make 9.3:1 
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That is what i did on one of the 460's and it's a great combo. Good power and pump gas. 
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His quote:

The dish has a volume of -10cc, including the valve notches. With 62cc heads, the compression ratio is 9.45to1, perfect for today's unleaded fuel!!

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i'll agree with that within the margin of variables, head gasket thickness, fire ring shape (head gasket volume), deck clearance ... your exact chamber cc volume will obviously have a significant impact on the static CR calculation. my link up above http://www.network54.com/Forum/136503/thread/1329504375/last-1357658605/View+Thread there it is again shows that the early D0xx (1970 model year production) heads have a slightly smaller chamber than the D1xx heads (1971 model year production) and any including your can have been milled some time during the last 47 years give or take. the published data has been known to be a little incorrect also, for instance the Boss 351 did not have the advertised 11.3:1 compression ratio. i forget what we figured it out to be but it was a good full point lower. so anyway for a decent SWAG you'd need to cc the chambers and measure the deck clearance distance at TDC
here's what i mean by gasket bore diameter,
http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1333300266/Fel-Pro+Head+gasket+8347PT+1+or+1013+or+---
the blue gasket is Fel-Pro 8347PT-1, standard replacement composition style 'no retorque' and the other is Fel-Pro 1013 performance style with a metal wire inside the fire ring around the chamber 
 
settled on a cam yet? where I'm going is that you want to choose a cam that provides right at / close to / not much over 8:1 Dynamic Compression Ratio for a happy on pump gas / not a dog build 


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He put in a dual pattern cam.
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Your car should run really well with this new short block. 

Do you know the came specs? 
 
Did you have to return your old short block as a core or do you still have it.
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I am going to still have the block. Do not know what I am going to do with it. Either sell it or put it on ice.
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We have engine!


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May as well do the oil mod whilst its on the stand and easy to access! 
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Originally posted by Nuggets Nuggets wrote:

May as well do the oil mod whilst its on the stand and easy to access! 


Explain the oil mod...
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