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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 72GTS351CJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-June-2017 at 1:48AM
Did I miss something? Why are we changing the heads? Is the so called mechanic back to being a diagnostic parts changer or is this something you wanted to do?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote foote500 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-June-2017 at 1:56AM
No, nothing like that, just to have if I ever rebuild the 4 bolt. Probably sell along with the car when it comes to that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote foote500 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-June-2017 at 2:03AM
Originally posted by Big Bird Big Bird wrote:

Upside-down and backward???


Yes, at first he said it could not be the gasket (this was before I even took the car back to him), then he diagnosed it and, lo and behold, he finds out the gaskets are directional. He said he should have it all back together by tomorrow.
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Ok....Good luck. ........again
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It was an impulse buy...
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From my mechanic:

"Morning Marc, I just finished torquing the head down, I'll make another pass thru them after I let them set for a while.  I could see for sure I had the other headgasket on backwards and it blocked a water passage."
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And I apologize for the mistake and there is no charge. I hope we can get past this and you remain a customer. ....That's what I would do if I were him
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I purchased this the other day, I can see it working on the GTS, but the little bump out bothers me, my intake does not have a place for that little bump, does it matter? Or will it cause a big vacuum leak?


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That because it is for a 73 and up engine with an EGR exhaust port in the manifold. That looks like a non EGR spacer plate (maybe for a truck?) that allows the manifold to be interchanged for car or truck application.  
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Good thing I did not pay that much for it, anyone need a 73 spacer?
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Would cutting off that "ear" and welding up the gap allow it to work? I cant believe there is not 1 72 spacer out there...


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all your old pics are gone, can you post a pic of your intake carb pad?
 
rather than cut & weld i would fill the cavity with epoxy (slightly over fill) and sand flat with a full size sheet of sandpaper on a flat surface after bringing it down with a file first
 
avoid filing / sanding anything but the epoxy but if you do get the metal it's no biggy as long as you finish out flat w/o course paper gouges in the metal
 
No, there are no 4300-D spacers out there unless you find one in a sack of hens teeth from the mid 70's. the go-to move was to bin the spreadbore and replace the intake with an aftermarket square flange & Holley
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also ~ possible ~ that the 4 holes will seal and the side cavities are a non-issue?
 
Yes it's possible that the spacer plate may work as is with the open overhang but if your intake has the EGR passage open that may be an exhaust leak, it'll also eat the epoxy in short order
 
tapping & plugging the EGR passage will eliminate that problem


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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

also ~ possible ~ that the 4 holes will seal and the side cavities are a non-issue?
 
Yes it's possible that the spacer plate may work as is with the open overhang but if your intake has the EGR passage open that may be an exhaust leak, it'll also eat the epoxy in short order
 
tapping & plugging the EGR passage will eliminate that problem
i was thinking the same thing! i used body filler on the adapter plates that were on my toyota, but JB weld would work great for filling that if you even need to? i'd lay the gasket on it and see what's exposed for a vacuum leak then lay the gasket on the manifold and check for any open passages Wink
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That sounds like it could work.
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Got the car back yesterday-no charges... Ran pretty good, minor hiccup with the throttle, seems to be hanging up a little, when coasting it was stuck around 1500 rpm, had to goose it to get it to come back down. I had a little spring rigged up to keep that from happening, but it was unhooked. So I will test it next nice day we have. The roads were a little wet last night to I got into the gas and got the wheels to spin! Happy Days!
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hmm sounds like you may have a internally frayed cable
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For a min I thought you said no changes... So..Good news. Hopefully you can move forward from here on
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Things are looking up!
The above post should be read in a "Grumpy Old Man" voice.
Almost forgot: "Get off my lawn!!!"
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Actually managed to do a dry pavement burnout today-even though it was uphill and to the right! Its is running really well, I must say I am happy, I hope it does not sell.
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