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Wanting to get over 400 hp and as close to 500 hp without spending a fortune is why I opted to stay with the 69 429 2v that my GTS came with cause stock it was rated at 320hp and that was advertised hp and we all know they actually had more hp the Ford said.adding a cam ,aluminum 4bbl intake ,650-700 cfm carb,doing head work and headers with 3in dual exhaust should get me right where I want to be and alot cheaper then rebuilding my 74 351C cause It would need pistons to up the compression and alot more work and money.the 429 has 10.5 :1 pstons stock and hoping to keep that compression even if I upgrade the pistons but just depends what they are like when I pull it apart to rebuild but want to keep it running on pump gas.Thought about stroking it but all that depends on the financial ability when IKm ready to build the motor.biggest thing is to make it your own and only you have to be happy with it so the 400 may not be a popular engine but donkt meen you canKt get one to perform.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote srwith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-April-2011 at 5:59PM
Hello zcowher, love to see those 73 torino's. I have two myself, one as original owner, going to get started on both next time home. Hope you have fun on the rebuild. Maybe someone here can help you on a 400/351m build. My opinion' I am not a fan of that engine, but thats me. I think better used in truck's not in a torino. Ask the friend what he does to modify that engine and how it perform's. I am learning alot from here myself so don't go by my word. Again have fun on the build and ask away, someone will help you out. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lynchster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-April-2011 at 3:08PM
Originally posted by ZCowher ZCowher wrote:

I agree with the 400, just fix a few factory goofs and add a few things should be good to go.

any suggections for what to do to the engine? I was thinking an edle brock 750cfm street performer with an edlebrock performer dual plane intake for starters( and fixing the timing which seems to be a major issue for the 400)
 
Since we figured out about what a resto/mod is, what am I doing by what I described so that I use the right terminology for it?
 
I'm a bit late, but welcome to party neighbor (I'm east of Harrisburg). 
 
From what I've read a 400 can be more than satisfactory moving 2 tons of Torino. The extra stroke of the crank and a decent cam would work nice with of a set of 70-71 351C closed chamber heads (then again what wouldn't). 
There are a couple of old school yards out this way that have a few Torinos so if you can't find anything out that way hollar.
 
Good luck with it.
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CC heads with flat tops @ .010" clearance makes 11.75:1, OC heads same pistons makes 10:1
 
it's do-able but it'll need a LOT of cam to reduce Dynamic CR or dished pistons
Tim has pistons for any combo
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ZCowher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2011 at 4:43AM
Well good news is I got that C-6 transmission, it needs rebuilt but then again so does everything I have. My friend also gave me another present to.. A Holley carb! It came off of a 429 from I think a 71 Torino, Unfortunately the engine was about the only good part on the car along with the Transmission that came out of it.



 


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I also got tired of saving up for a sander and generator, so I bought a sanding block and sand paper and went to town.








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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ilyes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2011 at 12:03PM
sanding, this is one thing that seems to be endless
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well I found out that the carb is a 600 CFM street carb
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2011 at 4:21PM
i thought i posted that, i guess it missed
 
1850 is a universal 600 with vacuum secondaries, does it have the Ford kickdown linkage on the throttle side?
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it should, i had one with, if i remember, it was a 1850-S, the other one came without it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unlovedford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2011 at 2:04AM
Personally, I have always had good luck with those vac sec 600's. Reasonable performance on stock/slightly modified small inch engines without breaking the bank on gas.
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I've used an 1850 before, ran well. idle screw passages were messed up from Holley, other than that, ran great. 
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My secondaries are locked up :( I've bee soaking them down with PB blaster for a few days but not luck yet.
I didn't thing to check for that drop down linkage last time I had my camera, I look at it again next time im at home.
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Hey guys sorry, its been a while since there was an update. Had a very good summer job and was making some money. had a few other issues this summer to as far as progress goes and the first month of the college semester. But were back on track. Here's what I got so far:
  • I've opted for a 302 instead of a 400, mostly because of cost, none the less I'm sure it will move fine. 
  • It has a new home! which is my home! I finally convinced my dad to let me clear up a part of the barn to make a car port to work on my 2nd greatest love of my life.
  • Along with the car port I spent alot of my time getting it set up the best I could. Its almost done.
  • As far as body work goes, I have an uncle who was a body man at a shop for close to 20+ years. In exchange for him helping me with my car and teaching me bodywork at the same time, I cut a years worth of fire for him next summer. I think I'm making out better on this deal :) but this doesn't happen until spring when he can pull out his mustangs again. makes for good time to find parts.
  • Pictures to come in the next few days 
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302 and 400 use a different bellhousing bolt pattern to the trans, C6 has an integral bell that can't be swapped... you're gonna need a small bell trans / case
 
also, be aware of the differences, the shifter cable mounts on the bell of the trans case for a column shifter are not there on a floor shift trans case. if you need the shift cable mount on the bell make sure the case you get has it there. the selector linkage arms are also different
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ZCowher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-October-2011 at 1:02AM
yeah I realized that, I'm hunting around for either a C-4 or an AOD. Leaning more toward the AOD. It's a colum shift of you were wondering 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ilyes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-October-2011 at 2:21AM
every time is see your thread title i think it's mine LOL
there's plenty of power in a 302 when done correctly, if you don't drive a lot on hway, a C4 will do just fine and might be easier/cheaper to find.

Swing some more pics when you can
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ZCowher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2011 at 11:16AM
Well it was a busy semester but, I managed to get some real work done now that the semester is over. Had some problems with grades at college and with a friend dying, got that under control now so back to the The Torino. I never posted those pics on my last post so I'm working on that right now.
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This is the Gran Torino new home. Not the best garage but it has electric and enough room to work. As well as being a 50 yard walk from the house.
One of the 302's still tossing up between 302 or 400
The other 302
Starting real work on the car in the barn, hood off.
Uncle told me to get the front end cleaned up and possibly get an engine in it before we start in the spring.

NOS fender being removed 



original fender off

me unbolting the inner fender


Took the horn off, apparently this car made it to the beach at one point in it's life.

 

inner fenders and radsupport taken off


 car with front end off.

Possible paint job for car, I have 4 different cars hanging up in the pizza shop I work at and this one in my toolbox. Motivation much?
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At this point I'm doing a little research as what to do next. Brake booster and master cylinder are coming off, Gonna repaint the wall as well as just about everything I pulled off and frame pieces. The passenger side looks a little rough like it had been hit once lightly (behind head light). Tomorrow I hope to at least have the master cylinder and brake booster off if possible.

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