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*Update*

Went and got a 73 fastback today,extremely solid and near rust free body (by eastern standards needs some floor pan/trunk pan/minor trunk weatherstrip flange work, but thats about it). So looks like I'll build a base version of a 73 fastback. I'll put some pics up of the fastback when i get some time.


Edited by MrSmog - 17-March-2016 at 1:21PM
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Congratulations! Those parts are ready whenever you need them.

Just a thought - After you pull what you need off the '73 Formal, you should put it up on CL for sale as a shell with a good title. There may be someone around that wants to restore it to it's original state. I know it's rusty, but there are parts available for someone with that want to build it.
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Originally posted by unlovedford unlovedford wrote:

Congratulations! Those parts are ready whenever you need them.

Just a thought - After you pull what you need off the '73 Formal, you should put it up on CL for sale as a shell with a good title. There may be someone around that wants to restore it to it's original state. I know it's rusty, but there are parts available for someone with that want to build it.



Thanks, as soon as I get caught up on a few things around here (also known as the never endin list) the next couple days, i can probably head over your way to get that stuff. I think its only a 4 hr ride. I plan to swap all the man steerin/perf suspension parts/ralleye package/base model specific trim over to the fastback and remove every bit of the "sport stuff". There won't be much if any of the "good stuff' left on the formal roof. I'll put it out back up high on blocks, maybe I'll use it next year for a deer stand lol 

The fastback is a AC car, don't know if I'll just leave the ac box and controls in or if I'll find a donor firewall (not gonna cut my formals up) from a non ac car and do it up that way. I'd rather do the latter just to clean up the engine compartment.
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ok another *update*.   Since my back has gotten worse, I just can't rebuild these cars out in a barn layin on the ground like I used to. So the search was on for a very solid base model car that i could basically drive as is. went and got this yesterday, its a 73 302/c4 base model with only 37k miles, been garage kept its entire life. I'm the 3rd owner and the guy i got it from only put 3k miles on it in the last few years. It has dings, scratches and minor oopsies but is as original a car as I have seen. Has new tires on it that look great, but they were new in 1979 lol  Plans for it now are minor. 80's ford am/fm cassette and some new speakers, pertronix to replace the points and a set of tires. My father's health isn't the greatest, so i'd simply like to cruise a lot this summer with him. after I get a shop with a lift put up, then i'll build a correct 73 351cj and swap the car over to the 4cpd/comp suspension/ralleye pkg and race it at the pure stock drags. This car even has a rubber floor, I hope I can source one for a 4 spd when the times comes. I couldn't put a car together this nice for anywhere near what I paid for it.



















Edited by MrSmog - 27-April-2017 at 3:53AM
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wow,thats looks to be in very good condition,
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Clap you got your car finally! Thumbs Up damn that is in nice condition!!!!
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yea its in very good shape, still has most of the factory paint on the frame and suspension. Its never had any paint or body work but I may try to get a few places spotted in for added protection.
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got a question mr smog wasnt all 351 cj 4 bolt main? never seen one with 2 bolt main,
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Nice car, very clean! 
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Originally posted by torino335 torino335 wrote:

got a question mr smog wasnt all 351 cj 4 bolt main? never seen one with 2 bolt main,


I'm FAR from a expert on clevelands but from what I have "read", they(cobra jets only) are supposed to all be 4 bolt main, but ford used what ford had on hand at times. 4 bolt mains aren't really anything special other then bein able to say "I got 4 bolt mains". They are supposed to be a bit stronger but I question that.  when I build a motor up for the pure stocks I am gonna use whatever I have on hand, hopefully I'm able to find a block with a primo standard bore. I think bore condition and size are more important then 4 bolt main with clevelands and what little I have learned about them.


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nice car buddy.all 4 bolt main blocks start of as 2 bolts.you can take a 2 bolt block and drill it for 4 bolt mains.so if you need a date code block look at 2v motors.all you need is the main caps to do it...
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no way to know if it's a 4 bolt block until you drop the pan. D2AE-CA came out of the factory machined as both 2 bolts & 4 bolts
i had a 2 bolt D2AE-CA nothing wrong with that Thumbs Up
 
i wonder if the engine is a 2V transplant wearing the original 4V intake?
 


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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

no way to know if it's a 4 bolt block until you drop the pan. D2AE-CA came out of the factory machined as both 2 bolts & 4 bolts
i had a 2 bolt D2AE-CA nothing wrong with that Thumbs Up
 
i wonder if the engine is a 2V transplant wearing the original 4V intake?
 


yea the 4 spd cars engine will probably turn out to be a plain old 72-74 2v. at first I thought maybe someone had swapped the 2v heads onto the stock bottom end because I think i recall guys doin that years ago to pick up some bottom end power, but more likely it's just a 2v engine.  If it turns out to be a 72 2v engine, would it have flat tops or dished like the 73-74 motors? I can raise compression 1.5 points per the pure stock rules, so that will put me right at 9.5-1. I need to find a small dome piston that will give me that with the stock 73 open cj head. I'd rather not cut the head at all if i can help it. I wouldn't mind findin a 8" center section with some 3.25,3.40 or 3.55 gears to help perk the 302 up for now.


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put a new aftermarket stereo dash speaker and mid 80's am/fm cassette in the car today. made me a bit nervous yankin on that dash pad and then shovin it back into place, but all went well. Also took out the shoulder belts so they don't dangle and flop around anymore. sat in the car listenin to old cassettes I had made back in high school and made it halfway through one when the cassette player stopped workin lol  I'll build a spare cassette radio up with a new belt and the faceplate I want and swap it out for this one one day. Just happy to have more then am right now. My fm modulator usb player works perfectly though with the radio, best 5.00 i ever spent on ebay.




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cool! umm the tape didn't get caught in there and unravel did it? damn cassettes were famous for that!! lolConfused
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

cool! umm the tape didn't get caught in there and unravel did it? damn cassettes were famous for that!! lolConfused


nah, i bet the damn belt broke. it was playin a lil odd and then before it popped the cassette out it slowed right down to a stop (music speed I mean). They are easy to replace on them as they have a plate that covers the belt drive, just need to source the right belt.
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yep, BTW rubberbands don't work!! ask me how i know LOL
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

yep, BTW rubberbands don't work!! ask me how i know LOL


yea I have a spare radio, I'll take the belt out and see if I can get the correct size and a source. they are great radios when they play, have a lot of sound for a stocker too. I'd like to find one with the all white letters on the faceplate so it better matches the stock gauges. The later ones have a blue and orange line on the faceplate but also usually have a power antenna wire which is good to run to a amp with some low level/rca adapters, lets you run a sub or power some higher end speakers nicely.
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That is one nice and clean looking car.
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Originally posted by kychevyguy kychevyguy wrote:

That is one nice and clean looking car.


thanks, it was the nicest one I saw that hadn't been re-done. The cynic in me just doesn't trust shiny new paint  lol

I'm tryin to find a 8" center section with some 3.25, 3.40 or 3.55 gears for a decent price if you run across or have one. pep the 302 up since i'll probably drive it that way for a couple years.
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