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HPM711
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Posted: 02-December-2013 at 2:23PM |
i have a 73 Gran Torino with an 8 inch rear end. I'm trying to get new rims but im not sure the bolt pattern i need. I've looked online and got mixed results between 4.50 and 4.75
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Big Bird
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5 bolts on 4.50 circle.
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n2fordwagons
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Yup, 5x4.5. Don't know of any Ford that would have 5x4.75. As far as I know, that's a Chevy bolt pattern.
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Ford small - 5 X 4.5 (5 X 114.3) Same as lots of imports.
Ford large - 5 X 5.5 (5 X 139.7) GM small - 5 X 4.75 (5 X 121) GM large - 5 X 5 (5 X 127) These are the bolt patterns used for years until recently. Now other patterns have been added additionally. |
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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
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Big Bird
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Ford fullsize 1973-1978 would be 5x5
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I know this is an old thread, but for those searching for answers later, my '72 Gran Torino wagon has a 5x4.25 bolt pattern. I bought 5x4.5 bolt pattern wheels and they didn't go on.
5x4.25 is apparently also a common Mopar pattern.
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1972 Gran Torino station wagon, light blue, 351C 2V, prior owner upgraded to 4V (2V heads), originally had a C4 but prior owner changed to C6 for some reason.
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Ford intermediates of the 70's have 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern, the full-size cars(Lincoln Continental-the Big T-birds-Mercury Marquis) have 5 on 5" bolt pattern. A 5 on 4.25" bolt pattern were on later model Fords/Lincolns-I believe a Lincoln Mark VIII had the 5 on 4.25"bolt pattern. Unless someone has done something funky to your '72, it should be 5 on 4.5"
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So are the wheels lug centric or hub sentric? What soze hub do I need if I want to use Mustang or Crown Vic wheels?
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1972 Torinos were 5 x 4.5" (same as Mopar) like Todd says. Torion Police cars were 5 x 5" for 1973 and newer.
Wheels were generally hub centric except for Magnum 500's which are lug centric. I am not sure the hub size off the top of my head, but I know several members have used late model Ford wheels. Check the Centric website and look up the rotors. It will show the specs on the hub bore size.
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shanewherry
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Thanks.
77.8mm bore
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1973 Gran Torino Wagon
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Inkara1
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So did I measure incorrectly? I went from hole center to hole center across the pattern (in the same way one torques down 5-lug wheels) and got 4.25. I just put new front rotors on, listed as fitting a 1972 Gran Torino, and the wheels fit.
I bought Ford steel wheels from the junkyard. I measured before I put the tires on, and one measured 5 inches at the hole centers, so I swapped it at the junkyard. But those are the ones that didn't fit. So I had the tires remounted on the non-Ford steel wheels that came with the car (except I had to find another Mopar steel wheel because mine had three 15-inch Mopar wheels and one 14-inch Ford wheel when I got it).
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1972 Gran Torino station wagon, light blue, 351C 2V, prior owner upgraded to 4V (2V heads), originally had a C4 but prior owner changed to C6 for some reason.
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aquartlow
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This should help:
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^^^^^^^
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74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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you have to add a smidge when measuring a 5 lug, cheating from the outside of one stud to the center factors in the smudge
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72 GT Ute
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JOHN
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Big Bird
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Also, 60s Ford 5x4.5 had a smaller hub bore, and those wheels won't fit newer cars with the 78mm hubs.
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