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    Posted: 12-May-2016 at 1:38PM
Does the c4 trans come apart from the bell housing? If it does anybody have a bell housing for a 302. looks like this might be smaller than the aod an be a better fit.
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yes the C4 has a removable bellhousing, there are several one's. some have a cable shift linkage mount some don't and i don't remember the other minor differences
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Will 302 bell housing for fmx work with c4. Just was offered a 351 w and 302 both with trans and 9in plus 2 8.8s for 100. guy sold house .
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Hello Bob.

The FMX is it's own deal, no interchange with anything else.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fordpower Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2016 at 1:15PM
So I will still need a bell housing for the c4 .Anybody have one.
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Some c4 bellhousings are for case fill and some are for pan fill. Some are for 157 tooth flex plates and others are for 164 tooth flex plates.
 
If you want to see a 157 tooth bellhousing for sale Click here.
 
If you want to see a 164 tooth bellhousing for sale Click here.
 
 


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If you want to see a seller that has both types for sale (including a bellhousing for a mustang II) Click here.

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there's about 1/2 a bajillion different C4 bells,
some are swappable while others may not have a feature you need

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The 351W, 351C, 302 and most 289 have the same 6 bolt bell housing. The Case fill C4 runs a 157 tooth flexplate and the pan fill big case C4 runs 164 tooth.

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don't forget Mustang II Wacko
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IIRC the mustang II's were all floor shifted (no column cable shift mounts)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2016 at 7:41AM
Avoid Mustang II. Weird small size bell, Flexplate and torque convertor. (smaller diameter, fewer teeth)
If you are switching from an FMX, you will need a C4 driveshaft (Different length, different yoke),
Flexplate may not work as C4 and FMX use a different convertor and yours may not be drilled for C4 pattern.
Flexplate tooth count/diameter has to match bellhousing size or starter won't fit. If bell/flywheel size is changed, then the goofy spacer plate behind the flywheel will also need to be changed or it will interfere with the starter fit/function. (Probably starter, or starter nose as well)
Kickdown is trans-specific (but can be bent to fit), and shifter linkage may need some attention.
Plan on making up new transmission lines.
If you go FMX to AOD route, starter, shim plate and flexplate will fit (AOD and FMX use the same flexplate). Regul8r and California Johnny did this swap and will have some good info on this.
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So ford had a better idea. this trans is a pan fill,does that mean it can not use the 157 tooth flex plate,or the mustang bell housing. Looks like I am back to the aod like it had in first place.
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