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    Posted: 18-February-2012 at 10:01AM
For some reason this was not put as I sticky post so I combined the 2 threads into 1 and made it a sticky and re-opened it for discussion and updates as you all see fit!
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Here is the original post and threads combined...
OK guys, stupid question of the day, 
How do you seperate the upper and lower core support insulator bushings? I pulled my core support today and everything came apart pretty well until I got ready to remove the upper core support insulator bushing from the frame horn. I thought it would just pull off but SURPRISE!
 
I think I know the answer; the upper bushing "washer" is threaded and acts as the nut keeping the two bushings aligned and tight. Correct? If so, how can I get a really good grip on the bushing washer to keep it from turning as you remove the bolt from below? I'm doing a one man restoration so I need to figure out a way of doing it solo... if possible! Here are what my two core support bushings look like....
 
 
 
As you can see I have them soaking with penetrating oil to help break them loose. All suggestions greatly appreciated!!
 
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I'm sure there's a way, but I never found it.


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Do you need to remove these to remove the core support itself?
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No. See above picture. 
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mine fell apart when i took my core support off. 
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Paul,
 
So there is no need to remove them as long as they are in good shape? The are still really firm & pliable....
 
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Unless you suspect severe rust under them, personally, I wouldn't. It's not like we have figured out a suitable replacement yet.
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Don't think rust is an issue on mine.... only found a spot the size of a business card behind the passenger front wheel opening (leaves built up on inside of fender and eat it out) on the entire car. here's one of the core support slots for reference.....
 
So, issue resolved and on to engine and transmission removal!!
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If I were realllllllly concerned, I'd try to lift up the edges and get some _________ (Insert whatever you are coating the frame with) under it. 
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POR15......
Since she will only see limited service once completed, I think it will be good as it is.
Heck she's gone this long with limited factory protection!
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The bushing has a nut on the bottom too with a lower bushing.
 
It actually has 3 bushings.
1 on top of the support
1 between the support and the frame
1 on the bottom of the frame
 
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I have removed them off of my rancheros when I did my frame off. I used a large set of vise grips  grabbed the metal washer looking piece part of the bushing on the first car and I was able to remove it with little damage. The second car was a bit more work. I drilled two holes in the metal washer part and each side of the stud (12 and 6 o clock positions)and taped the hole for a # 10 thread. Then I screwed in some hardened screws and used the visegrips again to remove. I was glad I did too because the frame looked rust free but the rubber trapped water and the holes where enlarged from the rust.
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Carl,
 
There are only 2 rubber bushings on the core support of my car. Here is the disassembly progress....
 
Assembled height 1 1/4"....
 
On top of core support: thick washer and nut (note shim between support and upper bushing)....
 
Nut and washer removed....
 
Support removed, another thicker steel washer and shim....
 
shim....
 
 
hardware used.....
 
soaking upper bushing....
 
These parts are typical of both sides except driver side does not have the shim. My front has not be touched, so this was how she left the Chicago factory. Perhaps the earlier models had more rubber bushings??
 
Thanks for the tip Dan, will give it try....
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Maybe before you drill and tap use a spanner wrench to lay out the holes then drill and use the wrench. Just a thought. I need to do mine also.
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*shrug*
Cutting torch, 4.5" electric grinder.
New grade 8 bolt, new poly bushings.
This deal caused me some aggravation, hoping that my retrofit works long term w/o issue.
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THIS is where the old thread ended and the new thread began... HENCE my reason for combining them...
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Need Some Help Fellas, I been round and round on the Forum and seems like i am getting no where fast.  I need RAD Support Bushings for my 1976 Ford Torino - I see alot of Postings about Bushings but nothing I seen so far is giving me an absolute answer.
 
So - Input or point in the right direction would be appreciated, These Bushings are located in the Front under the radiator support.
 
Does anyone company sell these new? Is there a Cross Reference from Another Vehicle or Mfg.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated Confused


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as far as I know, you cannot buy them, nor the other body bushings. mine were pretty well trashed... the consensus is for the body bushings, you can use 2008 crown vic body bushings but they need to be adapted.... some have used other bushings for that application as well such as jeep bushings, etc.

when it comes to the rad core support bushings... not so much of a consensus there. during my restoration, I used the same 2008 crown vic body bushings under the core support. I used some spacers (huge washers) so that it would pull down tight and not have very much give to it. but it seems to have worked well. no complaints yet
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Thanks Legend that Helps - so the 2008 VIC bushings will work just need bigger washers - correct
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yep... they will "work" without the spacers but there is some jiggling on the front clip without them. the spacers, I found, would allow you to tighten it down tighter, which firmed it up quite a bit.

I put the spacers, which ended up being huge washers, on top of the bushing, then I cut out a piece of rubber to go over the washers that was about 1/8 inch thick or so...
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I know Eliteman76 used some polyurethane Jeep bushings for his. Seemed to work also.
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