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GT Sport what year bushings for the jeep
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http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=9.4102#

That is the one. I ordered the kit but have not used it yet. There is some discussion here about them. I think Eliteman76 originally but bushings on both sides of everything, which ended up being too much. I believe there is no bushing on the bottom of the frame (where the bolt head is), and then a bushing on top of frame (between frame and rad support), and then on top of rad support no bushing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote legend onirot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-November-2013 at 12:41PM
my 73 DID have a bushing in the frame, then between the frame and rad support, just like the other body bushings. there was no bushing on top of the rad core support... see pic below



now I am not questioning scott, he is the greatest, coolest, most-knowledgeable guy ive ever known... they may have changed things up throughout different years?

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Well, see that is where the mystery begins Malcolm!

What I wrote above was what I interpreted to be the end agreement on the rad support bushing issue. I don't think we ever had a post of "this is how it is", people just sort of came to conclusions in about 3 different threads all about the same time.

It was agreed that 72 was different. We know that for many things already though.

I will look at mine tonight and repost what I find. Rad support is off, but I don't remember if I have any underneath frame.
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my 74 has a bushing up in the frame and a bushing between the top of the frame and the core support, no bushing on the top (of the core support) all of mine are totally wasted, i figured when i get the body off i would do some measuring and find out what i can come up with, and let everyone know.
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Ok, just went and checked on my 75 Sport.

Just as Malcolm and John have stated, there is a bushing on the bottom (below frame) and in between frame and core support. There is no bushing on top, just an extra thick washer and the locknut.

Here are some photos, and the new bushing is the energy suspension one for comparison.








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while we are on this subject... are all the rest of the body bushings the same as the core support ones? (height, outer dia. inside dia. frame hole dia.???
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

while we are on this subject... are all the rest of the body bushings the same as the core support ones? (height, outer dia. inside dia. frame hole dia.???


the hole in the frame was the same on mine but the bushing between the frame and radiator support seemed to be thicker than the rest of the bushings... thusly the spacers/washers...


I measured mine before removing for reference, but the crown vic bushing were a smidge different which changed the whole dynamic. so I had to just tinker with it until I got the dimensions correct... i.e. count the rotations of the turn of the wrench for each bushing and the spacers in the radiator support bushings.. until I got the front clip lined up properly

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thanks malcolm, so you're saying that all of the frame holes are the same diameter? (you don't happen know that diamention, do you??) (just thinking ahead)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote legend onirot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-November-2013 at 4:04AM
i don't remember the dimension of the holes.... sorry.. I do remember that the 08 cv bushings fit perfectly in the torino's frame holes, including the holes up front for the radiator core support. so if there were any differences, they were negligible.    
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John,
 
Here is a link to the two installments on my blog concerning the core support removal & bushings. May be some helpful info....
 
 
and a topic I started here on the forum about the same thing...
Joe I combined both threads so I deleted the link in this post. Admin-Regul8r(Carl) March 23rd, 2015
 
Keep up the progress!


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Not sure why this thread was locked and not stickied!
 
I just unlocked it, made it a sticky AND am combining the other thread into it to consolidate the info.
SO, I may read a little funny as when I move posts they land in the original post's date order.
 
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my bad! i never updated this as to what i used Embarrassed these are the energy suspension bushings that i used for the core support # 9.4102R
   Energy Suspension Universal Mounts/Isolators (9.4102R)
my frame was a little thin where the bushings sit, so i used a 1 1/4" flat washer (from the local hardware store) and trimmed the edge and welded it in place: (this also makes up the proper thickness for the bushing!) one for each side... passenger and driver side


 and i used two new 1/2" X4"? grade 8 bolts with poly lock nuts



Edited by californiajohnny - 23-March-2015 at 4:42PM
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this is the diagram as to how these bushings go:


the bolt goes up through the bottom, core support sits on top of this assembly, then a thick 1/2" washer (not supplied) is placed on top of the core support, then the poly lock nut (there is no bushing on top of the core support!!!)(just a thick washer and nut!)
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in the upper right corner of this pic you can see the bolt and nut sticking up through the assembled bushing (you should have 1" minimum sticking out above the bushing top washer, to allow for the core support and thick washer and any shims needed as well as the lock nut!)
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Everyone,
 
I contacted a company at sema and gave the a body mount.  They are going to give me an estimate to produce new urethane bushings. The metal parts will need to be reused. If you would be interested please let me know. The more I order the price will be lower.  I should have an estimate near the first of December. I will work with the same company to make radiator core bushing next.  If anyone would like to email me please.  btracingparts@gmail.com.
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

my bad! i never updated this as to what i used Embarrassed these are the energy suspension bushings that i used for the core support # 9.4102R
   Energy Suspension Universal Mounts/Isolators (9.4102R)

Do you know if they have a part number for black ones? Do you remember the diameter of the hole in your frame or the outer diameter of the bushing that fit it?
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chuck: black # 9.4102G
i welded a flat washer to the top of the frame holes to increase the proper thickness and due to the fact that my frame holes were a little thin from rusting under the original bushings. per the diagram here for these bushings it shows a 1 1/4" hole so then i used a 1 1/4" flat washer it was about 1/8" thick so with the 1/8" thickness of the frame and the washer totals 1/4" thickness as in the diagram!("recommended plate")  ***note--- your core support will sit on top of this completed assembly***

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Thanks for this info. I'm going to buy the bushing set for the gold base car and the red base wagon, since the clips are off both cars. Should not take too much effort to jack up the body enough to clean and paint the mating surfaces of all the body mounts and install the new bushings.
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For one reason or another I have the holes at 1 1/16". Leaves me with two choices. Different bushings or drill the holes in the painted frame..........  
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