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I see. My dad got all if his conversation parts from a 73 Montego. Pedsls, linkage, trans, bellhousing everything. IMO he was way luckier then me having to peicemeal it together.

I had been picking my dad's brain since he's already done this conversation albeit 20 years ago.
He said his frame mount bracket jus bolted up.

Rick, if you have pics of it that'd be coo. Im curious as to how my pops really did it.

On mine I had the 2 holes in the top of the frame. But no punched holes, like my pops said should be there. I drilled holes in the bottom of the boxed frame. Then I used a socket and rachets to bolt the mount to the frame. Used flat washers, lock washers and lock nuts.
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I just jacked up the car too look. Tough to see but he is correct. It looks like 2-9/16 or 5/8 bolts
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Hope that helps
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Thats crazy are there any other holes aside from the 2 on the top?


This is how I did mine.
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No holes in the bottom of the frame. I would have to say he just threaded the bolts in. Was your car available in a 4spd? Maybe there was no provision for that bracket
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I'm not sure if it was available in a 4 speed or not. The frame did have the holes in the top for the frame z-bar mount. My dad said there should be a factory dimple on the trans tunnel like there was for the clutch pushrod, but I couldn't see anything.
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Here's a pic in the 72 ford shop manual showing the comet and maverick with a nut and bolt holding the z bar bracket
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Montego and Torino clearly only a bolt. It's safe to say you had no choice drilling the bottom of the frame to install the nuts. I just don't know why. I believe the ranchero gt came with a 4spd. You would think all frames would have the provision to mount the bracket
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i'm getting dizzy seems like your threads are crossed up with the conversion featuring the fork and the fork thread featuring the conversion

anyway here's a pic of the frame holes i found on a 1972 FMX automatic equipped car, i constructed quite an extension with universals to tighten my hardware from the first opportunity where the frame is open. no manual transmissions after 1973 so no pivot ball mount holes in the frame in 1974. Comet & Maverick are unibody so fasteners are not going to be the same, no comparison



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Ahhh yes. No comparison with the comet but the point being made that if there was a nut under the bolt it would show it. So no 4 speed ranchero in 74? I guess that's why there were no holes at all in the frame

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I know the postings are all over the place, sorry.

Ok so no manual in 74.
The thing is though, I had the same holes on the top of my frame jus like in the picture Rockatansky put up.
But that was it, no nuts welded in them, jus the holes.
That's why I opened up the bottom of the frame so I could get the hardware in and the mount bolted up to the frame.
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so they did just leave the holes in production, 'engineers' say it's more expensive to change something than to make it right Wacko but yeah i made up an extension to hold my bolts and snake them through pointing upward through the frame then i used a thin jam nut to keep them and recreate the height of the riv-nuts. since i didn't use the riv-nuts i was able to use upsized 7/16" bolts rather than the factory size

Duh, now i get why your holes look like they're in a different place than mine Clap
 
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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

so they did just leave the holes in production, 'engineers' say it's more expensive to change something than to make it right Wacko but yeah i made up an extension to hold my bolts and snake them through pointing upward through the frame then i used a thin jam nut to keep them and recreate the height of the riv-nuts. since i didn't use the riv-nuts i was able to use upsized 7/16" bolts rather than the factory size

Duh, now i get why your holes look like they're in a different place than mine Clap
 


Yeah this picture I took was from the bottom. Actually cut out a like piece of the bottom today so I had better access to the nuts.
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Spray some paint on it before you do the install. Rustoleum is a good sealing paint that will last way beyond the next clutch.

I snapped a rusted out fork on a pickup one time. 4x4 K-20. Not an easy fix.

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Originally posted by handsofstone handsofstone wrote:

Spray some paint on it before you do the install. Rustoleum is a good sealing paint that will last way beyond the next clutch.

I snapped a rusted out fork on a pickup one time. 4x4 K-20. Not an easy fix.


Copy that Roberto Duran, haha. Your handle is awesome.
I actually sprayed it a day or so after with some black primer. Did that with the trans tunnel cut out as well.
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primer is not paint, i hosed my brackets & fork with Harbor Freight rattle can Black after welding the pins to the stampings. they were loose & wobbled out




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Nice job. We did plenty of welding at Aamco. Lot of greasing too. The old setups would squeak like heck.
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looking at the pics i think it's Rust-O brush on

they'll get another coat before it's over
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