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    Posted: 04-December-2016 at 7:49AM
Well I picked this Ranchero up this weekend. Found it on craigslist with no pics so didn't pay much attention to it. After a few weeks, I texted the seller and asked for pics. Also negotiated the sale for $2000. 

It's a 73 Ranchero GT. The car has 40k original miles. It decodes to Blue Glow paint, C6 trans, 3.00 open 9" rear, blue vinyl interior. The DSO is Los Angeles, which backs up my thoughts of this being a CA car. The engine code says it's a 400, but the sticker on the valve cover says 351m, so I'm going to need to pull a spark plug and measure the stroke to see what it actually is. 

The paint has definitely seen better days, and there is some surface rust, but the car is unbelievably solid. It definitely has potential. The interior isn't bad either. The dash pad is cracked, but otherwise the interior is pretty nice. 

Right now I'm not sure what I'll do with it. I was thinking satin black, dark brushed finish trim, grille, and head light buckets, and lowered down. But then again.... blue glow paint with some magnums or polished aluminum slots would look killer too. That's the same color as Sabatoa's Torino, and I love that car. 

Anyway, here's some pics. Any feedback would be welcome :)




















Edited by Power Surge - 26-December-2016 at 2:14PM
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Engine code h means one of three 351w 351m or 400 I believe.
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the valve cover sticker can be confusing, it'll state engine family on one line and then the actual displacement on another. the harmonic balancer might be a clue, the original 400 had a heavier balancer than the 351M, same 28.x oz imbalance value & interchangeable but the 400 had more mass in the outer ring
 
unfortunately the engine block & head castings share the exact same ID codes for both engines, the only differences are the crank (& balancer), the pistons and the valve cover sticker
 
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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:


the valve cover sticker can be confusing, it'll state engine family on one line and then the actual displacement on another. the harmonic balancer might be a clue, the original 400 had a heavier balancer than the 351M, same 28.x oz imbalance value & interchangeable but the 400 had more mass in the outer ring<div abp="1030"> <div abp="1031">unfortunately the engine block & head castings share the exact same ID codes for both engines, the only differences are the crank (& balancer), the pistons and the valve cover sticker<div abp="1031"> <div abp="1031">1973 Ranchero, possible candidate for the FMX block ... Exclamation


Yep, I'm well aware of the sticker layout, that's what caught my eye. The engine family line says 351m/400, but the displacement line says 351ci.Unfortunately the right half of the decal is gone, so it's missing the part that says the year. The engine build sticker on the passenger valve cover is long gone as well.
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If it says 351m/400 the engine is '75 or newer. 351m wasn't out till 1975, so it wouldn't be on the earlier sticker.
As far as I remember, the 351c had their own stickers not shared with 400.
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Originally posted by fordpower fordpower wrote:

Engine code h means one of three 351w 351m or 400 I believe.
 
pretty sure in 1973 the H code could be a 351C-2V or 351W-2V or 4V(rare)
 
400 would be an S code and 351M didn't exist until 1975
 
351C-4V was a Q code
 
some stickers said 'Cleveland Family' or such then designated displacement, not sure what year that was but i don't have a saved pic
 
at this point anything's possible, original engine that's worn several sets of valve covers or complete engine swap
 
check that bellhousing to see if it's the large or small pattern
 


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Originally posted by Big Bird Big Bird wrote:

If it says 351m/400 the engine is '75 or newer. 351m wasn't out till 1975, so it wouldn't be on the earlier sticker.
As far as I remember, the 351c had their own stickers not shared with 400.

Now that's an interesting point...
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Engine code in the VIN for 400 would be an "S"
No 351W 4bbls after 1969, until a few 80s-era Bronco/F150...
Also, it may just be the picture, but the driver side looks like a Windsor-type valve cover.
There's usually a raised square area around the oil fill on any of the 351C/M/400 valve covers


Edited by Big Bird - 04-December-2016 at 11:11AM
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Originally posted by Big Bird Big Bird wrote:


Engine code in the VIN for 400 would be an "S"
No 351W 4bbls after 1969, until a few 80s-era Bronco/F150...
Also, it may just be the picture, but the driver side looks like a Windsor-type valve cover.
There's usually a raised square area around the oil fill on any of the 351C/M/400 valve covers



The car is an S code. And it is the picture. It definitely is a 335 series engine.
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hard to see but doesn't look like a windsor.
 bed looks great wonder if the primer on the lower quarters are due to surface rust from rock chips?
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Nice car!  I look forward to the progress!
Originally posted by Big Bird Big Bird wrote:

As far as I remember, the 351c had their own stickers not shared with 400.
 
You're right they didn't share the same stickers.  The early 400's list the engine family as "400" like this one here:
 
 
The 351's listed the engines family as either 351C or 351W.
 
After 1975 when the 351M came out, the 400 and 351M used the same engine family "351M/400" but it will also list the actual displacement below like this one for a 351M.  Its surprising how many people think that a 351M/400 is actually one engine.
 
 
 


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Does anyone know if the 73-76 GT stripe was originally painted or a decal? 
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The original stripes are decals.
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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

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Yep...used them for many years now. Just wasn't sure if original was painted or decals. (thanks dave)
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That is a really nice color! Shocked I'd stick with that if I were you!
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Well after a few days of research and checking casting numbers, I am quite certain that the engine is a 76 351M. Not that it's all that important....from the outside it's the same as what came in the car, and it's not a rare engine code or anything. But nice to know. 
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easy enough to restore back to 400ci if you ever decide to go through it
 
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I like the blue with the stripe too, looks very sharp.  I agree with Rock, not much too much to make it a 400 or better yet a 434 stroker....
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400 engines are getting popular with builders now. Kind of a dare to be different. I'd stay with the Blue Glow and perhaps go with a Laser stripe if you could get one to work instead of the Ranchero stripe. Either way, nice find.
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