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Grande Verde
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Posted: 30-September-2010 at 3:51PM |
Does the cleveland and windsor use the same moter mounts? I just bought a set, anchor part# 2370 and 2371 and only one fits. They look identicle except for the spacing on one is a little wider at the engine block. Did I get the proper engine mounts for the windsor? Any help would be appreciated
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302ford
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Do you have the W or the Cleveland?
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302ford
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Sorry...i just re-read you post and realized im blind. Im almost 100% certain those are the correct ones. the 2370 being front right and the 2371 the left
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madmaxtorino
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They should be the same. oneof the new ones a defect?
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Allan
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torkair
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They ARE left/right specific. The engine block doesn't care which ones you use on which side but your cross member DOES as they are at a slight angle.
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Grande Verde
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torkair
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Aside from bolting them to your crossmember and measuring from side to side not really.
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73GTS
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Sorry to bring up an old post, but did anyone figure out why the 2371 mount doesn't fit? I still don't understand why you can't use the 2370 mount on both sides. I see absolutely no difference using the 2370 on both sides.
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torkair
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The cross member is angled slightly and so are the mounts. This is to account for the slight rearward tilt to the engine.
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73GTS
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I think I understand now, thanks
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smhj
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I just mine on. Not looking like they made a diffrence. But holes are about half inch off if you measure the leg of the mount.
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Restring
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Has anyone ever resolved this issue for the 351C? Just bought the 2370 / 2371 motor mounts from Rock Auto. The 2370 for the right side (sitting in the car looking forward) mounts to the motor and the 2371 will not. Like previous post, about 1/2 inch offset in the hole pattern. Any modification info available?
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73GTS
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Yeah, get out your drill. Mine fit fine with minor modifications.
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Jim
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bdaugette
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I ended up using the 2370 on both sides, worked perfectly.
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Big Bird
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Do not bent the engine side to fit. It will not land on/straddle the frame if you do.
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TORAH54
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I replaced mounts on my sons 72 gts 351W a few years ago. I'm not sure where he got them but They did come with different part numbers. I looked them over before installing and Either I was really smart (not normal for me) or really lucky (absolutely not likely for me) they went in perfectly. If I recall the lower number went to drivers side.
The one issue we did have was interference with the oil filter. We had been using Fram that has a fairly small diameter flanges at the motor end. I decided to go to AC due to their better (in my opinion and experience on ford 5.4 motors) anti drain back valve. These have a slightly larger diameter flange. Ran fine until he called me at 2AM one rainy night that he lost all oil pressure. I found him in a 24 hour Walmart parking lot by following the oil slick. Figured out that the edge of the oil filter jut barely hit the mount and when the was any flexing, common with a heavy right foot, it backed off the filter just enough to leak. I ended up getting the jammed in oil filter off with a few choice words and a big screwdriver, bought a fram in Wally world that fit just fine and got it home. A little time with a grinder and the ACs now fit just fine. My point is that any part can have slight variation, check your fit with these aftermarket parts. BTW I bought that 72 when my son deployed to the Middle East and I just put in a good C5 tranny and started driving it on Thursday. Lots to sort out but it is a fun car! |
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Restring
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Thank you for your response. Did you end up using the 2370 (passenger side) and the 2371 (driver side) mounts? When modifying, the 2371? Which hole on the flange did you modify? The one in the front of the engine or toward the back? Thx.
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72RogerGT
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I had the same issue a couple years ago it seems that someone at the manufacturer messed up with the measurements. I ended returning them and got a new set from NAPA auto parts which fit like a glove. I assume they have different manufacturers than Oreilly and Autozone.
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