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Grantorinosport351
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~Bryan
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It's the one on the right.
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~Bryan
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I'd say dig'er outta there & click some better pics, my monitor is bad enough as it is
also post any tag info or stamped numbers you can find on it use an inspection light & wire brush even |
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Try here
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Thanks! and I'll try to get better pics when I go back.
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~Bryan
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Could be an 'overdrive' toploader.
I'd run it if it were.
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Paul
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Heck yeah! I'd buy it in a heartbeat if it's a toploader! I hope it is!
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~Bryan
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If thee are three levers on the side, its a 4 speed, if there are only two levers, its a three speed.
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It has three.
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~Bryan
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I agree with Paul. Looks like a later 4 speed overdrive. They had them in Granadas, Monarchs, Mustangs, etc... in the 70's and early 80's. Wish I could find a good one.
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Yeah, iirc the guy said it came in cars like the granada
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So that's 3 speed with an overdrive gear? Does anyone know what the name of this tranny is?
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at the risk of sounding stupid here? i thought that top loader meant that the shifter came out of the top of the tranny (like a truck tranny) i do know the granada's did come out the top, a friend of mine had a granada and he broke the plastic saddle bushing in it so we replaced it down under the shifter in the top of the tranny. but yes^^^ if it has two shafts out the side it is a 3 speed, 3 shafts out the side is a 4 speed, that i do know!
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JOHN
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I thought toploader was because all of the gears and everything was located close to the top?
So is this worth trading my c 4 for? |
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your call, but i would make sure you got the right shifter and all the right linkage and possibly bell housing with the z-bar and brackets, or you may be chasing unknown parts forever
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JOHN
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Yeah, your right, I may wait until I find a complete toplaloader or I get all of the parts located for this one.
Anyone have a toploader, or know where one is? |
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the 3sp + OD Toploader is affectionately called 'The Imposter'
they're called Toploaders because all the parts are loaded into them through the cover on the ... you guessed it... TOP! the Imposter is not a full strength brute of a near indestructible 4speed trans, and from what I understand the shifter can be tricky. a guy I know just swapped in an Imposter & is having an issue with the length of throw on Reverse, could be his shifter or the linkage arm he has on there... ? looks easy, huh? |
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4th gear is weaker sure.. How often do you do a WOT shift into 4th? I've had my truck as a 5spd for a year now... I tend to 'stop driving hard" after the 2-3 shift..
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a lot of guys drive the same as you're describing, but it's a 5 spd not a 3, you've got much better (closer) ratios in the low gears
Bryan's 67 may get pushed a little harder? mostly what I wanted to point out is the 1-3 ratios are more as a 3 speed. the car will not accelerate the same as it would 1-3 with a 4 speed, the ratios are going to wider than a wide ratio 4 speed and the car will accelerate accordingly. camshaft, gear & other tuning choices can be made to compliment the wide ratios, uninformed choices can present significant performance issues most street/strip level 3 speed cars don't have ~much~ issue with the 1-2 change, but 2-3 fuggetaboutit! 3rd gear is 1:1 reminds me of a poor SOB in Germany, he didn't understand why his Ranchero's performance sucked... he had an F series truck box with a granny gear & PTO covers all over the thing if I came across a good Imposter I'd grab it, but it ain't a 4 speed |
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Thanks, are thi pics shown above a toploader, or the imposter, and if I was to buy parts for this, I'd call it a________?
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Bryan, what about just looking for a 5 speed? Plentiful, relatively cheap, great ratios, better performance, same look, bolts right up to your engine, and better gas mileage. Win, win, win.
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What cars do they come in? 90's mustangs?
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1983-up to 1995 Mustangs are the most plentiful. Try to stay with the Fox body or 1994-1995 versions. The last two actually have a better fit, as the shifter is a tad further back.
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Bell housing might be an issue, depending on what engine he has.
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Hey joe? Do you have a 5 speed that came with one of your stangs?
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This page has basic T5 info to get you started.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml P.S. avoid camaro/firebird T5. They're weird(angled mounts) |
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Bryan, I do have the 4.6/5 speed, but it is going in the red wagon. The other 5 speed T5 is going in my 4 speed car.
If you are running a 302, any of the 5 speeds I listed above will work. The Fox bodies are cable clutch systems, not hydraulic like later models. |
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Thanks big bird, I've notice you changing you emblem a lot lol.
Joe, if you locate one of those trannys, let me know! |
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Craigslist, my friend, Craigslist. They are pretty common here and run anywhere from $100-$300. I'm sure Texas is loaded with them.
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Never even seen one in person.. I ended up with a TKO since getting a used one here would be $200 + $300-400 ebay price + rebuild...... meh.
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