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Regul8r
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Posted: 09-March-2015 at 3:01PM |
Here is a sticky thread for all the info on Headers!
Tell us what YR, Motor, Tranny and THEN what headers (Make, model, part # etc...) you have! |
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Regul8r
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72, Gran Torino, 302, C4
80s/90s Stock Mustang GT Headers, had to grind the flange a little to slip by the gear box. Edited by Regul8r - 09-March-2015 at 3:08PM |
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'72 Torino. 351W, C6 auto (the deal breaker for many headers), floor shifter & power steering... FPA 1-5/8" x 1-3/4" stepped long-tubes w/ 3" collectors. Originally patterned up in/for a '68 Mustang for a 351W/C6 swap. Passenger side goes in from above, driver side goes in from underneath. No need to unbolt or move anything. Clears tranny by a mile and collectors do NOT hang down. Actually had to roll the exhaust down a bit, after the collectors, to clear the humps in the tranny cross member.
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74 torino, 351W, AOD auto, JBA #1653S headers. both go in from the top,great steering box clearance, passenger side had to grind a little of the aod bellhousing by the top starter bolt for anti rattle/vibration purposes (fmx or c-4 should be fine) drivers side had to make two small dings in the bottom of the #1 tube to clear the motor mount bolts/poly lock nuts(i'm using prothane motor mounts (may not be an issue with stock style mounts as they have rivets instead of large thick lock nuts)
pics in my build thread: http://forum.grantorinosport.org/johns-74-sh-clone-build-thread_topic10024_page2.html Edited by californiajohnny - 10-March-2015 at 6:07PM |
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74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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GranTorinoSport
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75 Sport, 521 (big block), C6, PS.
Hooker 6126 ceramic coated. Fits about as good as it gets. Touches the steering gear, engine must be partially out to install the haeders and to replace the driver side gasket. Had to put heat wrap on transmission cooling lines, and I should put some heat wrap on the steering gear. Some say part of the steering linkage may hit, but I have not had that problem. |
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73 Brougham, Hedman long tubes, 351c, C4 auto, soon to be toploader.....will see if these still fit after!
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73 351W FMX PS/PB. Summit Racing headers. Went in from top and no issues at all!! Hooked up to custom 2.5 in dual with H pipe.
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Regul8r
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Please include part #s on your threads.
That will greatly help! Thanks. |
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Anyone using long tube headers that actually clear the linkage with a 351C and top loader in the 72 - 76?
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steelerman1969
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I have had NO luck with headers on my 1973 GTS, running a 351C 4V heads and intake with a C6 transmission.....any ideas ?
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I am curious what the difference in flow is for a factory SBF exhaust manifold v/s a Ford "Shorty" and the difference in flow between the "Shorty" and a full long tube header. Of more importance would be general power differences (both real and perceived).
Edited by unlovedford - 30-April-2015 at 7:03AM |
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Joe
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galvarado
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I realize this thread is a couple years old, but I just wanted to add another header option. I don't know if anyone has used these for this application. 1976 Gran Torino, 351W, C6, and I used Doug Thorley THY-268-1-C. The driver side collector had to be ground down a bit due to the Ford steering gear. Perhaps a Saginaw gear affords more room, but it clears after a little work with the Ford gear. Both sides dropped in from the top with loads of room on the passenger side. Passenger side clears the starter with plenty of room. No more heat soak. And no more cooking the fuel line on the driver side.
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uploads/733/Untitled_001.pdf uploads/733/Untitled_002.pdf uploads/733/Untitled_003.pdf Edited by galvarado - 21-September-2017 at 11:31AM |
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Rockatansky
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always good to keep up on header fitment because availability is always changing
usually not for the better
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TV 2M8O
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'76 Gran Torino 460 floor shift - CRITES using factory mounts. $495.00
Passenger side collector was tight to C6 pan but Crites made me a new one to kick it away from the transmission. They are individual 2" tubes with a slip fit, 3 1/2" collector, so installation is pretty easy... Harder getting the collectors on that installing the tubes!!!
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Below is some detailed information from aquartlow, Todd, sent me on installing Hooker Super Comps 6126's for a Big Block Ford.
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72FordGTS
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Here is some information from the Torino Kid on Hooker Super Comps 6126 headers. These are installed on a 351M that was installed in a GTS he bought. This would be the same fitment for a 400 engine since it is externally identical to a 400.
For more information, see the original thread here: |
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aquartlow
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Good pics above, but just remember, if your GTS has the Saginaw steering gear there will be extra clearance due to it's smaller size.
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72 GTS 472 BBF, C6 Auto, Standard Steering. 6126 Hookers clear everything in the engine bay. Collectors fire right into the factory transmission mount, so I modified mine and reinforced it with metal bottom plates to minimize flex. |
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72 GTS 351C 2V C4 Column shifted. Power steering. Power brakes. A/C.
Hooker Comp 6915-1HKR I went with the 4v headers bc I'll be installing 4barrel heads in the spring. Because the description did not say "Gran Torino" I called their tech who said they'd fit. These went right in from the bottom. Literally took 10 minutes each to squirrel them into place. No special bracket needed for ps pump. I have not finished connecting the collectors to the H pipe yet, but do have all the parts and hope to finish this weekend. (Also doing a Edelbrock 2v 4brl intake and carb swap) Eyeing the passenger side it seems one of the tubes may be a bit close to the idler arm but I won't know if it hits until I get it running. Jon Edited by jbach72gts - 25-October-2018 at 12:16PM |
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couple things in case you're not aware, that PN is regular Competition rather than Super Comp, 1.75" primary tubes vs 1.875". the PITA isn't the tube sizes alone but the shape of the tubes good news to hear they slide in w/o all the wrestling that the Super Comps for the same application require. also FYI the 4V flange ~shouldn't~ seal on the 2V head, but just right now i'm remembering that the 4V sealing bead around the port opening doesn't seal on the 4V head maybe it seals on the 2V head better than the 4V, IDK ...
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Edited
Thank you. They look like they'll seal. |
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after too many years of trying to seal Super Comps on 4V heads i took a real close look at all of it, turns out Australian 2V heads have enough meat around the port to seal a 4V header but US 2V's leave a side open. the gasket lasts a little while but it's unsupported and burns through. i ended up making a set of plates to help support the gasket. i traced the inside of a 2V gasket and the outside of a 4V gasket, the bolt patterns are the same but the material around the port is not |
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Steve M.
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Just thought I'd update what I have for headers and why I went the way I did.
1976 Gran Torino with a 351W and an FMX transmission. Hooker 6124 HKR full length. They fit with some minor issues. 1st. The passengers side went up from underneath. Very tight but went in place and lined up nicely with the crossmember.
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2nd. The drivers side was very different.I took the steering box and lines out. That gave me enough room to bolt up that side. Started the engine to burn off the paint. Removed the headers and painted them black with high temperature header paint. There was some tweaks to do. The pipe closest to the steering box needed to be slightly bent in. Replaced the power steering lines. I didn't trust the old original ones.
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3rd. The headers came non-flanged. After some debating with the custom exhaust shop, I went with a clamp system. Future transmission work will be so much easier to do with this setup. Its not pretty, but it works.
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The exhaust is 2 1/2 inche pipe with Flowmaster 50s and 3 inch slash cut tips. With the built up engine, it sounds very nice.
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Steve, what tailpipes did you go with? Custom or something already bent that was 2 1/2"??
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The pipes are custom bent. The whole exhaust system cost only 780.00 and change That's headers back
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