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Regul8r
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Here is all the info in one place from another member pertaining to the FRONT Brakes.
THIS should answer all the questions for the swap to the LARGER 12" Factory rotors. Just to add on to what is said below, remember 72-76 GRAN TORINO refers to 72-76 Base model Torino 72-76 Gran Torino 72-76 Montego 72-76 Ranchero 74-76 Cougar 74-76 Elite AFTER 76 the same Type 2 refers to 77-79 Ranchero 77-79 LTDII 77-79 Cougar 77-79 Thunderbird upright/spindle: 2 variations available TYPE 1 (smaller bearing) -72 Ford Gran Torino -72 Ford Thunderbird -72 Ford Ranchero -72 Lincoln Mark IV -72 Mercury Montego TYPE 2 (larger bearing) -73-76 Ford Gran Torino -73-76 Ford Thunderbird -73-79 Ford Ranchero -73-79 Lincoln Mark IV -73-76 Mercury Montego rotor/hub: 4 variations available TYPE 1 (smaller bearing) -72 Ford Gran Torino - 5 on 4.5" - 11"OD -72 Ford Gran Torino (police/taxi) - 5 on 4.5" - 12"OD -72 Ford Thunderbird - 5 on 4.5" - 12"OD -72 Ford Ranchero - 5 on 4.5" - 11"OD -72 Lincoln Mark IV - 5 on 4.5" - 12"OD -72 Mercury Montego - 5 on 4.5" -11"OD TYPE 2 (larger bearing) -73-76 Ford Gran Torino - 5 on 4.5" - 11"OD -73-76 Ford Gran Torino (police/taxi) - 5 on 5" - 12"OD -73-76 Ford Thunderbird - 5 on 5" - 12"OD -73-79 Ford Ranchero - 5 on 4.5" - 11"OD -73-79 Lincoln Mark - 5 on 5" - 12"OD -73-76 Mercury Montego - 5 on 4.5" - 11"OD caliper bracket: 2 variations available Remember to grab the backing plate as well 11"OD rotor setup -72-76 Ford Gran Torino -72-79 Ford Ranchero -72-76 Mercury Montego 12"OD rotor setup -72-76 Ford Gran Torino (police/taxi) -72-76 Ford Thunderbird -72-79 Lincoln Mark calipers: 1 variation available -72-79 Ford/Lincoln/Mercury intermediates and full sized |
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Would I be able to use off of a 1972 formal top, front disc set up and and the rear drums on a 67 mustang. Why because the 72 is a parts cars I just have sitting in the back yard plus it's been rear ended bably. With that being the suspension is is still good and has been pondering my mind on how to figure it out. Perhaps someone can help?? Plus the 72 has some nice wheels that would look great on the mustang.
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dragsterdick
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I wondered if there is a caliper made for either size small bearing rotor that had more than one piston? I am using 1975 Torino small bearing front brakes on my 1964 Galaxie drag car and would like a little better braking!!
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Big Bird
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Want multi-piston???
Look at 67-71 Thunderbird. Multi piston Kelsey-Hayes set-up. It may also be used in some of the 65-72 Fullsize fords. Also there was a 4-piston system for 64-66 Thunderbird.
Edited by Big Bird - 14-October-2017 at 12:33PM |
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Thanks Big Bird !! I will look into those calipers !!
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dragsterdick
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Heh Big Bird, how close to fitting are rotors from a 65-69 Mustang? Guy that called me has a complete set up for racing that he wants to sell me?
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Big Bird
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That I don't know. I do know the 62-64 Galaxie is a different front end than the 65-78 Fullsize.
I would start measuring the bearings, spindle depth (space between bearings), and offset/centering of disc on the hub. Easy way to swap to discs would be to find a spindle assembly that bolts on.
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Don V.
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This is just a suggestion but you might want to contact the manufacturer of the Mustang brakes and see what they have to say about using them in a larger and heavier Torino. If nothing else they might suggest a different proportioning setup.
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Rockatansky
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digging into Rockauto listings I'm only seeing the 4 piston T-bird caliper as late as 1967, 1968 + shows a single piston unit
A-1 Cardone 184402 Right side & 184403 Left side are the 4 piston jobs, Centric also lists numbers for calipers with hardware and loaded with Posi-Quiet pads + hardware LTD & Galaxie also show the same calipers for 1967 ================== will the 1967 multi-piston calipers bolt directly to the spindles in place of the later caliper brackets? |
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Rockatansky
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also the 1967 T-bird uses a 2 piece rotor hub?
i wonder if the rotor centers the same as a 1972+ Intermediate?
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Big Bird
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The 67 spindle/Knee assembly will bolt up. Don't think the rotor or caliper will work on any other spindle.
There are several different calipers/rotors in the 67-71 era, and I never tried mix and match parts, just complete knee assemblies, because we knew it worked, and that there were mix and match fitment issues. Ball joints, LCAs come to mind. Some LCAs have a deep spring pocket, which lowers the car about an inch (Think those were thunderbird, don't remember) For bigger brakes on the 67-70 Mustang, look at Fairlane/Torino 66-71. Mustang 67-70 is a stubby Fairlane Chassis. (As is 66-69 Falcon)
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Rockatansky
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OK duh i just looked at my spindles and the caliper bracket bolts are for/aft/perpendicular rather than parallel to the spindle
now tell me i have some crazy spindles from something that won't work i recall a member here that had different LCA's and a ride height issue ...
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