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russosborne
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I need some thoughts on this.
I need to move my Ranchero from one side of the concrete driveway to the other. So say 10 feet at most. Probably less. Yes, poor planning on my part. I should have parked the Ranchero where I need it now before I started to work on it. I can be stupid at times. I also didn't anticipate this taking months. Problem is there is no front suspension on it at all, and I need to move it before that is going to change. Car is complete except for that. Front is on jackstands right now. Rear is sitting on the tires like normal. budget for this has to be $150 or so, preferably less. I can get dollies to put under the rear tires, although I have not had a good experience with those you get from HF. And it looks to me like the other places that are selling them are selling the same ones but for a higher price. In the past I replaced the casters on the ones I used to have and that helped a lot, but it more than doubled the cost. But for the limited distance I am willing to try them again. Problem is what to do with the front? Big problem is that I am doing this alone. I have thought about using a floor jack, moving the car a foot in front, then a foot in back, etc, until it is moved where I need it. But there has to be a better way. Thinking about getting 4 of the HF dollies, just not sure where I could put them in front. Need to make sure the engine isn't damaged in doing this. I am not able to weld something structural that would hold up a 3000+ lb car. I'll be doing good to get the floor pans replaced and not have them fall off once I get to that point. Thanks, Russ Edited by russosborne - 14-September-2016 at 8:43PM |
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stanman
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I'd stick with your original idea....the floor jack method. By the time you build something or even make a return trip to Harbor Freight the Ranchero will be moved.
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call some movers with heavy duty furniture dolleys, put some cut 4x4 on top of the dollies for height, use them to support the front of the car (from somewhere?) and then you also have 2 guys to help.
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californiajohnny
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either idea would work! just move it a little at a time if needed i use a floor jack all the time to do stuff like that
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JOHN
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russosborne
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Thanks.
I will probably try the floor jack before doing something else, since I already have one of those. Just need to be careful, I forgot that the driveway is sloped a bit. Will have to have the ebrake on and if it starts rolling drop the jack really fast when doing the rear. Really wish I would think ahead all the time, I normally do but I really expected this to be a couple of days and done. Russ |
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Id go with floor jack as long as your driveway is smooth enough and you have a couple guys to help push the car. Or second vote harbor freight for wheel dolly's. Use the 20% off coupon that is in every single magazine. They have improved them. First set I bought the caster wheel bearings feel out after a couple uses. They gave me a new set of casters for them but of course the holes didn't line up... Anyway the last set I bought Ive had no issues with.
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Might be a thought...
Someone with a towtruck?
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russosborne
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tow trucks cost money. My budget got cut drastically today after spending on other needs.
I remembered that I have four 4inch casters I had bought a while back to build a body cart type of thing for my Pinto. So I bought a 4x4 piece of wood today, had it cut in half, so I have two 4foot long pieces. Will take one of them and mount all 4 casters on it (to even out the load on it from the car) and use that in the front. Will use the jack on the rear. I'll probably use both halves for the Pinto later on. Going to try to plan on doing this next weekend. Hopefully. Going to try to get the thing put together later today if I didn't spend too much already, still have to get some bolts or something to attach the casters with. Thinking lag bolts for now, drilling a straight hole thru the whole 4x4 will be difficult as I don't have a 4inch drill bit. Not even sure about what size bolts I need to fit the casters. Thanks, Russ Edited by russosborne - 17-September-2016 at 9:32PM |
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californiajohnny
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sounds like that should work. if not floor jack will! just jack up one end and move it over 6" or whatever and jack up the other end and move it the same, changing the jack end for end until you get it where you want it
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What will keep the 4x4 from flipping over when you start to push the car? Are you going to bolt or clamp it to the bottom of the frame of the car?
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Use an engine hoist. Hook a chain to the crossmember, jack it up just a bit and roll it away. BTW, if you have the emergency brake on, it will not work, as the rear wheels must roll to be able to pivot.
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russosborne
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Well, this has become an emergency. Got a zoning violation today about the Ranchero, so it needs to move twice. Once to get the Mustang out, and then moved to where the Mustang is right now (behind a gate in the backyard).
Engine hoist won't work as I don't have room in front where it need to be moved to the first time. Probably going to try the jack method to get it out of the way, and then back to where it is. Then I just have to move it forward 20 feet or so, might be able to do the hoist then. Or just the jack in front and pushing from the rear. Or just sell the stupid thing real fast. I have 14 days before they reinspect. Thanks, Russ
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californiajohnny
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jack method should work fine, can you get a neighbor to help too? sounds like a place i wouldn't want to live!!!
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do like i did with one of my chargers. get a pair of those 1500 pound wheel dollies from harber freight, (50 bucks) a good sized piece of wood, (or pieces as the case may be) strap them all up to the frame of the car and under the dollies, so that theyre all rigid and solid and move them around as you wish. between these and a floor jack, you should be set. i had to move my car over 20 feet this way. took about an hour start to finish.
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russosborne
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I am going to try that.
I had to move it today using two floor jacks. After I figured out that the car had to be up in the air on both jacks it worked, to a point. About 4 feet into the move it started to roll backwards (on a slight slope). I managed to get it just far enough sideways to allow me to park my dd there and eventually (next weekend) to move my Mustang out of the back yard, where the Ranchero now needs to end up. Doing this alone sucks. Not sure how I am going to get it up the driveway. Might have to use the Mustang as a push car. Not sure yet. Might see about having a tow company move it, need to find one that can handle a car with no front suspension. Thanks, Russ |
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californiajohnny
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See if they have a small 1ton wrecker, it should have frame forks that sit in the wheel lift and go up under the frame to pick it up
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Russ, hopefully you got this moved. My vote was breaking down and calling in a tow truck.
IN the end it's a lot safer and less of a headache to move a car. In my case I has a small lawn trailer and a lawn tractor to roll in and out of the garage at one point but on a slope you are playing with fire. If the car falls off the jacks or if it lands on you...or rolls into the street... I've pushed stuff using my truck with the snowplow before as well. but those are generally junk cars.
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russosborne
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Thanks.
I thought I had posted the conclusion here, guess it was in my project thread. I did end up calling a tow truck. My luck, I called the wrong one though. Very friendly guy, but totally clueless. I still haven't looked under the car, but I know there is damage. He didn't have any tools to do this, guess all he did was normal tows. Ended up still having to use our Subaru to push it into the back. Luckily the bumpers lined up. The tow guy got it up in front of the gate, but it was so bad I told him that I'd finish it from there. Russ |
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