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    Posted: 27-April-2018 at 4:27PM
Hey where was the discussion on this? I can’t seem to find it again.
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Yeah, I did one on my car.  Here is the thread.  The part numbers I used would apply to a 351C, 351M, or 400 powered Torino.  I have pics and part numbers in the thread.
 
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Is there a torque limiting clutch that crosses over?
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Do you mean a torque limit for the fan clutch?  Not that I am aware of.

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A centrifugal fan clutch rather then a thermostatic clutch.
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I am not sure on the mechanical clutches. Why not use a thermostatically controlled clutch? They use less power.
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Originally posted by 72FordGTS 72FordGTS wrote:

I am not sure on the mechanical clutches. Why not use a thermostatically controlled clutch? They use less power.


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Just wondering.
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Vince, I just read your post, great info!

I had no idea these cars ever came with a 4 blade fan, I've never seen one in person! 

My car has the 6 or 7 blade fan, but I drive my car a LOT and on the highway back and forth to work most of the time (75mph). 

I might be interested in the clutch setup, if it will pick me up a few more mpg. Did you see any mpg improvement?

I can't use the stock fan, right? 
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Thanks for the feedback Sal. The four blade fans only came on cars without A/C. Other cars got a flex fan. There was no clutch fan offered from the factory.

I don't know if it made any real difference in the MPG as I don't track it on this car. I definitely noticed less fan noise at high RPM and the engine seemed somewhat more willing to rev. I do almost all highway with my car too which is part of the reason I wanted to get rid of the direct drive fan. Plus I am sure in traffic it will pull much more air.

You can't use your stock fan as it won't bolt to a clutch. Overall it's worthwhile upgrade and the best mechanical fan setup available. The only better setup would be a electric fan but it's quite a bit more work and money and you lose the stock appearance.
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Originally posted by 72FordGTS 72FordGTS wrote:

Thanks for the feedback Sal. The four blade fans only came on cars without A/C. Other cars got a flex fan. There was no clutch fan offered from the factory.

I don't know if it made any real difference in the MPG as I don't track it on this car. I definitely noticed less fan noise at high RPM and the engine seemed somewhat more willing to rev. I do almost all highway with my car too which is part of the reason I wanted to get rid of the direct drive fan. Plus I am sure in traffic it will pull much more air.

You can't use your stock fan as it won't bolt to a clutch. Overall it's worthwhile upgrade and the best mechanical fan setup available. The only better setup would be a electric fan but it's quite a bit more work and money and you lose the stock appearance.

You can actually have an electric fan with a stock appearance. I used to build them back when I was making Lightning parts. I would mount an 18" electric fan in the opening of a stock shroud, and it the only way you'd notice is if you looked behind the shroud at the engine. 

My concern with the clutch fan, is airflow. I already have the upgraded stock fan. My car doesn't overheat, however in heavy traffic here in FL on hot days, the temp does creep up a bit past where it normally runs. With the clutch setup, that would give me 80% lockup, with pretty much the same size fan. So wouldn't that give me LESS airflow at idle?
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The issue is a flex fan and clutch fan are not the same in terms of airflow. So I don't know what kind of air it moves in comparison to a flex fan.

In any case it seems most OEM setups for maximum cooling had clutch fans not flex fans.
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I just want the factory knife thrower flex fan gone. I had one of those POS things come apart once. Tears the crap out of fan shrouds radiators and if you are super lucky it’ll even f up your hood.
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