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Novarism
New Member Joined: 30-July-2018 Location: El Paso Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Posted: 30-July-2018 at 7:23PM |
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Good evening all, Recently purchased a 1968 Torino earlier this month and kept finding myself back at these forums through most of my research and reading, so figured I might as well join. Been working on vehicles since I was 16, more out of necessity than enjoyment in the early days and had never worked on anything older than the late 80s up until the Torino, which has left me surprisingly ignorant when it comes to working on the older engine. Looking for a few pointers and some advice as I try to put the old girl back together. Thanks for having me and looking forward to meeting you all in the near future. Frost
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chuxster
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Welcome Frost, tell us about your 68'. This is a great source of info for these great cars.
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californiajohnny
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welcome! me i prefer working on the older cars, way more simpler!!
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JOHN
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Novarism
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Well let's see here.
I had been actively searching for a project car since back around December. I thought I had found "the one" when I found a 67 GTO (true GTO, not a rebadged Lemans or Tempest) that was running for $7000. Only catch was that it had been rear ended while parked on the side of the road. The seller was originally downplaying the extent of the damage, claiming that it was primarily superficial but when he finally posted images of the frame, it was obvious that the frame had been bent and I just wasn't willing to invest that heavily into a vehicle out of the gates. My second prospect was a 67 Mustang for $5400. It appeared to be someone else's project car, with most the work appearing to have been done on the body and engine. Unfortunately by the time I called, it had sold earlier that day. Returning to my search, I came across an unbadged Ford that I did not recognize, but immediately fell in love with. After a few days of texts, a 2 hour trip to Deming NM to look at the vehicle in person, I was bringing her home the very next day all for the low price of $2500. The 68 Torino is a formal top with stock 302 paired with a C4. For a few hundred more, the couple that I bought the vehicle from tossed in a 390 (I assumed it was a FE, but after finding the casting number I found that it was in fact a 73 FT). The car was originally painted lime gold with a black vinyl top, ivy gold interior seats and trim, and medium ivy carpet. While I'm sure there are those that can appreciate such a stereotypically 60's color combination, I was actually relieved that the interior was completely trashed and that a previous owner had crudely sprayed black and grey primer over the original paint. All the trim had been removed and thrown into the trunk and from what I can tell most of it is still there, though after mocking it up on the body, I think I will forgo most of it and stick with just the basics. Only one patch of rust, I suspect due to damage since its in the same fender that has a dent and the fact that the rest of the body is solid with only minimal surface rust. I know that 2005 was the last time the vehicle was registered and ran. It was registered in Arizona, before being sold to a mom and pop classic car yard in New Mexico, before being bought by myself and brought back to Texas. I've only owned the Torino since the 4th of July, but I've managed to get the 302 running again, I've replaced all the rear drum brake hardware (learned when I was rolling the Torino off the trailer that it had no brakes), and primarily cleaning and minor tinkering while I try to decide what direction I want to take the rebuild. I was also dragging my feet while I stripped down the 390 to have it sent for cleaning, resurfacing, and crack checks. I've really been spending most the time
I've always heard this from all the older mechanics I've worked with and learned from, but I'll tell you trying to install a carburetor with no references and only vague generic instructions that came with it (not even for my model) was one of the single most frustrating experiences of my life. After having the engine go full throttle on initial start up (and catching a buddy on fire when it backfired), I realized something might have been wrong. Made some adjustments and it seems to idle as expected, but if I'm being honest I'm still not 100% sure that it's hooked up entirely right since there was no carb in it when I got it and there were lots of extra parts laying around under the hood, with some of them not even belonging to the Torino.
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7T9_Tbird
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Do you know if the big block is a 361 or 391? the 391's better than the garden variety 390's, due to slightly thicker castings. I had one in a '63 1/2 Galaxie Sportsroof, with a 427 crank and rods, and custom pistons. True torque motor. You need to use a FT distributor, however, because the hole in the block where the bottom is supported is slightly larger on the 391(go ahead, ask me how I learned THAT lesson). Good luck, and post pics!
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John
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gpd294
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Welcome David. Sounds like you got yourself a nice project car. My wife is from El Paso and graduated from UTEP. We visit her family for Thanksgiving almost every year and our first stop is always Chico's! LOL! At first I didn't get all the hype, but those tacos do grow on you. But it's definitely an El Paso thing...
Post some photos of your car when you can.
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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station
Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana |
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Novarism
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While I have not personally verified (bad, I know), the individuals that sold me the engine claimed it was actually a 390 (well, 391 since its a FT), I have not had the time to independently verify this. I plan to within the next few weeks when I'm not stuck working. I'll let you all know when I know, lol.
I've been here in El Paso for nearly 2 years and have yet to go to Chicos. The only time I have heard people talk positively about it normally do so in the context of "It's great drunk food". Aside from that, Texas in general has been a candy shop for classic cars. Having originally came from Florida, I'm used to most cars rusting to nothing after 15 years. My 2001 Explorer which was a Florida truck has significantly more rust and pitting than the 68 Torino. I will definitely be posting pictures later today once I get off of work.
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72FordGTS
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Welcome to the Forum Frost. Sounds like you got yourself a pretty nice Torino. Please share some pics when you have a chance.
I am sure the members here will be able to help you out with your project. We look forward to seeing the car and following your progress.
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Vince
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As per the requests, pictures can be found in this post: More pictures in the link below the four initial shots.
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