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lurch
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cheers guys ill certainly add more pictures if it will help others its been a good project once this parts done we are going to move onto the engine so stay tuned
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californiajohnny
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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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72FordGTS
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It looks like it is coming along nicely. Post more pics the repair comes along. It will be great help for others who encounter the same problem.
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Vince
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lurch
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for those interested the cowls very nearly sorted top sections been removed the rotten cowl is now out, next step is to fabricate a new section without top hats and add an actual flow point, paint it up and put it all back together
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72FordGTS
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Oh, that plastic strip at the bottom of the windshield. That part is pretty generic and is shared with lots of other Fords. Part number D3AZ-6503243-A. Keep checking ebay, there was an old listing on there for one. I also found one here:
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lurch
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sorry guys ive attached a picture
ordered this one but got cancelled https://www.autokrafters.com/p-21997-windshield-strip-1970-76-ford-galaxie-torino-ranchero-71-73-mustang-cougar-more-plastic-cut-to-fit-60-d3az-6503243a.aspx |
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californiajohnny
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i think he means the windshield gasket...weren't the 70-71's still gasketed not glued in like 72+???
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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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72FordGTS
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Do you mean the cowl to hood weatherstrip?
Here is a one on eBay that ships world wide. |
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lurch
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Got another question for you guys
do any of you know where I can get a new front windshield weather-strip ordered one off auto krafters and it got cancelled as non in stock |
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californiajohnny
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mine was a non a/c car.
remember i put the speaker grill over the opening so you couldn't see the squirrel cage |
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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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Rockatansky
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mine came factory A/C i'm putting in a heat only plenum my last one i cut the evap housing off and made a transfer duct from the blower motor over to the hole going in to the factory A/C plenum. i don't even remember if that worked for fresh air or if i cared? i guess i'll finger it out soon enough
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72FordGTS
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All my old cars were non-A/C vehicles. Those fresh air vents work pretty good on hot days when you have no air. My Torinos vents move a ton of air. Did you block off your fresh air intakes too when you did your cowl? Looks like John did too (can't remember if he has A/C or not).
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californiajohnny
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my 74 don't have the piece up to the cowl anymore so it draws from inside if i want outside air... i just roll the window down!
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JOHN
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Rockatansky
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i forgot about the old cars that came heat only had manual vents on either side in the kick panels. i guess i don't get any outside air?
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lurch
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brilliant thanks vince
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72FordGTS
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All the drawings I posted are from Ford service manuals. The first one is for a 1970 Torino, and the second two images are for a 1972. The second two photos are just schematics that show the air flow paths (this is not how they actually appear) but the 1970-71 systems operate the same way.
Good luck with your cowl repair. Keep us posted.
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lurch
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Hi Vince
thankfully due the age of the vehicle we don't have to pay any tax or do vehicle inspections (MOT) which book did those drawings come out of that's something ill need to look out for |
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72FordGTS
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Not that I am aware of, you only got recirculation mode for A/C cars and it was activated when the A/C was set to the coldest temperature settings on the slider. But like you said, you set the door to keep it in recirculate full time. See the diagrams below: Heat only (note all the air intake is from outside): A/C and Heat (note the air can be drawn from outside or inside the car):
It should work and other's have done it this way as long as it's driven in fair weather. Just keep in mind your defroster will not be effective without fresh air. I am not sure if that is require as part of the vehicle inspection over in the UK.
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lurch
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thanks guys over here its only going to be driven in the nicer weather that we occasionally have with the windows down and the 351c rumbling :) I reckon blocking them off will be job
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Rockatansky
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pretty sure my heat only box has recirc? heat in recirc, we call that Bake
Edited by Rockatansky - 04-April-2019 at 3:59PM |
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72FordGTS
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Sorry your right Rock, I was thinking of a non-a/c car since there is no recirculate option. AFIAK, they just draw fresh air, but I guess it could be modified to draw from the interior (see pic below). In any case, running heat in recirculate mode is terrible, things fog up in no time.
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it'll run heat / defrost from recirc, just lock the plenum door in place you'll just never have fresh air coming in through the vents, with the temp slider all the way to cold you'll just get whatever air is in the car already Edited by Rockatansky - 04-April-2019 at 1:38PM |
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Unless you want no fresh air vents and poor heat, I'd try to save them.
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Rockatansky
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the cowl is where you get fresh air for the passenger compartment. the 'hat' on the passenger side of the car is the air intake for the heater A/C system. |
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lurch
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would it be worth flattening over the top hats (if they dont do anything important)
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72FordGTS
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I don't think making gutters would be necessary if you take off the top of the cowl and replace the metal. If you then coat it with a good quality rust paint it should be fine. Ford left these unpainted from the factory which is why they rusted out.
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lurch
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similarly making something similar to guttering under the cowl screens and lead it to the fenders that way no water can sit on the metalwork. just bouncing ideas haha
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lurch
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I've got a mechanic just down the road from me and between us we reckon it might be best to get the whole cowl area flattened with a small slopping tray to the two exit points in the fenders so water cant sit in the cowl and then see what sort of rust damage has been done to the firewall. how does that sound to you guys?
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72FordGTS
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Macs has the cowl screens, and the window felts.
What's the plan for the rusted out cowl?
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lurch
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so I've just been out to the car thankfully no water inside which is good :)
I have removed the cowl screens and they are pretty much U/S now so ill get a new set but as I was removing them I noticed that the lower weather strip for the window is pretty much hanging off on both the driver side and passenger side only really held on for about 5 or so inches the whole way across so ill need to locate a new one as well as the upper hood strip as that's pretty much deteriorated as well. I've poked my phone in the cowl covers and taken some snaps and it also seems that the driver side cowl is no existent and the passenger is rotted though at the lower half. so on the needs list is some new cowls and some new rubbers anyone have any ideas where I can get some? |
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