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Psquare75
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Posted: 04-January-2010 at 4:51PM |
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Taken from Ranchero.us with permission of 72GTVA
Attached are some diagrams for Body Mounts: If we find a source for bushings correctly sized we'll post that information too: Note: Sometime between '73 and '75 the #4 body mount was eliminated and, the #5 mount on the 77-79 models is not a bolt in unit like the 72-76 models. The frame does not have an access for the hardware. They use a press in type rubber mount that sits on the frame and the body just lays on that (no hardware). If you have any updated measurements or information send me a note and we'll include it with this Reference Note. Edited by Psquare75 - 05-January-2010 at 4:38AM |
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Paul
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smitty-1976
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Energy Suspension has a universal Body Mount that I used on my '76. Look under universal products. I am going off memory but i believe the number is 9.4102.
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Eliteman76
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Hey, just a little tidbit I wanted to also pass along.
Late model crown vic body mounts are identical to the original Torino units. |
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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Regul8r
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tell me more Andy!!!!
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Eliteman76
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While I was out at the yard pulling the tbird/CV seats and wandering around, there was a police cruiser I want to say 2000-2002 in the yard, and it was missing a 1/4. Went over and the body bushings were easy enough to get at, and the thing looked about identical to the Torino.
Pulling it out of the frame, they have the same little bump that my originals had, for alignment in the frame. I didn't see the lower body bushing, but it's something worth taking a look at. |
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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73GTS
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For those who missed this post.......
Edited by 73GTS - 22-March-2010 at 1:54AM |
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Regul8r
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NOW... I am confuzzled!
Are they in fact the same or are they in fact different but will work?
IF they are not identical and will work... what will the difference do?
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73GTS
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Email me for info I just lost all I tried to post "ACCESS DENIED"
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Jim
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73GTS
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OK I'll try it again,
These CV mounts are about as close as you will come without modifying. The differences are minor and I don't consider to be too big a deal. You just need new bolts and the radiator core support mounts. I am going to use a combination of old core support mounts and new. New consisting of possibly 73 truck core support mounts I bought and the universal mounts I bought from Energy Suspensions. This should work fine. I should be able to get it done without too many problems.
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Jim
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rrlcommish
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Where do you get new bolts?
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1972 Gran Torino Sport Fastback, Bored 30-over 351C - 4V, Lt Blue, Pertronix Ignitor, dual exhaust with Turbo mufflers, otherwise stock
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73GTS
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You need a bolt that's a little longer. I'm going to measure the old bolts and mount and figure against the new mount and order them online. They are 8 grade and can be bought online easily.
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Jim
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Eliteman76
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Keep in mind, the OEM bolts have a taper. Which may mean you will need to grind the tip to aid in putting the bolt in.
I had a parts car with mint isolators that I used. I tried using new bolts identical in size, however due to them not being tapered, they were a PITA to try to use, so I dug through my collection of bolts cleaned the threads up, and reused what I had. I still have a couple boxes of Torino mounts. Concerning the radiator support mounts, I have posted what I used 3 or 4 times. Ford LTD bushings, they were available for pretty reasonable from ford. What I used was Ford bushings meant for an LTD, I forget the year. My parts receipt shows: E2AZ*5400155*A ABSORBER List $7.75, net cost each was $6.43 each back in 2002. Damn, that's depressing...2002 is when I got them, and I still aint done almost 7 years later. Anyways: |
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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73GTS
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Andy,
Is that a 2pc mount? Do you buy 2 or 4?
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Jim
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Eliteman76
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I bought 4 of them. I also bought a couple plated body washers {shown in the picture with the red prybar} inserted into the top.
Pretty much identical in size to originals, plus they are not rubber. |
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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73GTS
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What did you use inside the frame?
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Jim
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Eliteman76
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you know what, I honestly am drawing a blank.
I will try to take a peak tomorrow and see. I thought I only bought 4, but maybe thinking now I got 6. |
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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rrlcommish
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I measured my bolts and they are 2 1/2" long, 1 1/2" thread, 7/16" coarse thread and 5/8" hex head. Anyone know how much longer of a bolt is needed? And where did you order the new bolts from? |
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1972 Gran Torino Sport Fastback, Bored 30-over 351C - 4V, Lt Blue, Pertronix Ignitor, dual exhaust with Turbo mufflers, otherwise stock
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steve
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Hello everyone ! I got the energy suspension kit for a chevelle ? I am not ready for them yet but will be before winter. Does anybody know a good inexpensive rear controll arm set up ?
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Psquare75
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Anyone actually USE ANYTHING from this sticky yet?
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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steve
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Yes !! I got quite alot from this thread. I may not be offering any records in rebuilding but I am moving fwd. I recently bought a 1971 429 thunder jet engine with the ( dove-c ) heads to build my 514 stroker from.
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occupant
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Something we could do is build up a TECH ARCHIVE of the important, but not posted on often, threads that contain vital information. Stuff like the links to the 335 engine website, this body mount thread, etc etc. They can be copied over and made to be read-only or something and in their own forum. Or left in a single stickied thread up top. Then leave the original where it was for discussions about it, and have links to the discussion thread from the "tech archive" thread.
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steve
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wwhhooaa That sounds wwaayyy to confusing to this old dawg.
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occupant
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What I'm saying is instead of having six stickied threads up top, have ONE stickied thread that contains links and titles for the important threads. The threads may move around and get hits or not, but when you're looking for tech advice or a how-to thread, you could check the ONE stickied topic at the top of the list to see, oh, hey there it is, body insulator bushings, click it, and go to that thread.
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08 Uplander LS, 262K, broken again
08 Explorer EB, 195K, for the wife still looking for another something |
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Psquare75
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That's how Hotrodders.com is. I guess whatever the tribe wants (and Scott approves of).
My initial question is still open. Who has actually tried to use any of these body bushings? |
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Eliteman76
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Well...small update:
For those out there following my messed up, screwed up 9 year build, the bushings I bought from Ford, for the radiator support, I would now suggest an alternative.
I was working on my AC system last week, and while under the car I noticed the 5 year old bushings deformed from what I can assume is too much pressure or weight.
So much for getting a body bushing from Ford thinking yeah, that's the ticket!
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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Regul8r
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Show us what you mean Andy
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steve
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Good thing that when I did my frame I left the rotted out rad mounts on it. Went thru sandblasting / POR / primmer / and undercoating. Everything from front to rear was removed except them. Left them because I was unsure ! Now I am putting new stuff and theyre still sitting there waiting ???
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72 gts fst bk in 1982 !!
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Eliteman76
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OK, sorry for the delay, to outline what I did on just the radiator support.
I finally found the pictures and actually got them grouped together. So, here are the body bushings I located at a Ford dealer. I stuck a body washer in the open end: Using a new bolt identical to the original length: This had some of the body spacers off my original support for this: Last time I was under the car, I noticed this: Needless to say, I am not happy. Need to check into other suggestions like the CV mounts. Another winter project I guess. **edited posting as all the original links were broken. Here is the shot of the updated bushing I used, as described in the other thread: Edited by Eliteman76 - 21-April-2012 at 9:12PM |
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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Ron Earp
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Guys, maybe this thread needs splitting into radiator mounts and body mounts. Two completely different animals here.
With respect to a 72 GTS I'm interested in what to do about body mounts. My body is going back on the frame in about three weeks and I will need to solve this problem for sure. Unlike most of you it seems I do not have access to a salvage yard to walk around in and compare parts. A couple of questions: 1) Does anyone have the body diagrams shown at the start of the thread with the thicknesses of the mounts? I can't seem to make out the thicknesses. 2) The Crown Vic body mounts - they work but in some places might be 1/8" to 1/4" too thick? 3) I understand the mounts that are between the frame and the body. What is inside the frame? When I removed my body what was inside the frame was so badly rotted I can't tell how thick they were nor what they really looked like. |
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