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Ron Earp 
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 Posted: 12-January-2011 at 4:06AM |
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Hey Fellows,
Q - I'm getting ready to mount the "front" of my car - the radiator support etc and noticed I'm going to need some bushings there too! And, I don't have any - has anyone come up with a solution for this? R |
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Posted: 12-January-2011 at 4:05AM |
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How about just coating the washer with some silicone then? That sounds like it may work pretty good.
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Posted: 11-January-2011 at 4:48PM |
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I am thinking the rubber coating would help keep the washer from rubbing off the paint causing future rust issues. Avoid Metal washer to Painted body surface contact.
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Posted: 11-January-2011 at 1:18PM |
I honestly don't think rubber coating the washers will make any difference at all because you still have the mount to cushion.
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Posted: 09-January-2011 at 1:39PM |
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i will cut an old bicycle air chamber to the shape of the washer just to make sure to don't scratch the paint
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Posted: 09-January-2011 at 5:44AM |
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looks great!
I wonder if I dipped the washers in a rubber coating if it would help reduce any body noise and also help not rust the spacer/washer or metal rub through the paint?
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Posted: 08-January-2011 at 5:30PM |
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Looks great!! glad we found a mount that will work!
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Ron Earp
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Posted: 08-January-2011 at 2:03PM |
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Below is a picture of one of the Crown Vic body insulator bushings mounted on my 72 GT. I think they worked great, but I have no idea if they are "right" or not. They all installed easily and I used my old bolts. I did cut the units down as described by the original poster. Seems there is about 1/2 to 5/8" between the body and the frame. Don't know if that is too much, or too little, but it seems ok.
 I appreciate you guys going to the trouble to find the parts and recommend them. Thanks much, Ron |
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Posted: 31-December-2010 at 12:01PM |
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I would ensure you cut the new springs to the stock height as described.
that way EVERYTHING lines up!
If the busings are taller then you have ALOT more adjustments to make...
Rear might not fit correct at rear bumper valance fuel neck area
That bushing I mentioned won't work
The header panel will need shimming but that could cause issues with the fan hitting the shroud.
Then you have the front bumper might not line up! The shims and slots are not designed for much up and down movement.
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Posted: 31-December-2010 at 3:32AM |
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maybe i should stick to the measurements given here
and shim evenly if needed for clearance. i'll also check my 72 factory manual to confirm, if the info is there
i'm not opposed to the Gasser look & have no sympathy for low profile 'rubber band on a rim' tires! not that i'm gonna do a 4" body lift either...
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Posted: 31-December-2010 at 3:22AM |
This is the reason for modifying the mounts. |
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Posted: 31-December-2010 at 2:51AM |
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Don't forget the small bushings on the frame side rails!
They are not bolt in, they go right about where your butt sits in the car to avoid any body/frame flex on that long run from front bushing to rear bushing.
It is rectangular shaped
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Posted: 31-December-2010 at 2:35AM |
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Even with an OEM bushing I managed to run -8 an (well 1/2" aluminum) line in the OEM fuel line location.
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 11:10PM |
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what's the harm in installing the CV bushings un-modified?
other than shimming the core support to match(which i need to do anyway) and having enough room to run my -10 fuel return line on top of the frame... slightly longer bolts if needed doesn't seem like a deal breaker. i'm not doing a Pebble Beach resto
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 8:46PM |
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Thank you, that is helpful and I think it is enough space as along as I keep the line tight to the frame.
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:55PM |
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Damn, cold out there. I had to do the ole finger check. With my 3/8" line, I got one of my fat fingers in between the line and the body. I am guessing at this point, you are only going to have maybe 7/8" of an inch.
Sorry it's not more exacting...but I have too much junk on the floor to really lay down and check right now. |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:50PM |
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Ron-
Factory lines on the Torino, are a 3/8" line, I would think you should have clearance on you lines. Let me go crawl under mine. Be back in a few. |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:19PM |
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Question - can anyone tell me the space between the inner part of the frame and the body when the body is installed?
I want to run a -8AN line down the inside of the passenger side frame rail. This line is about 5/8" to 3/4" OD and wish to know if there is that much space available between the frame and body. Thanks, Ron |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:12PM |
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We'll know real soon. I bought the bushings as described and cut the metal tube to the 1.25" height. Have them lined up for the body install in the next few days. Sorry the picture didn't work too well. I've got ten of them out on the body held in place with some extremely light and tacky glue to ease installation.
Ron  Edited by Ron Earp - 30-December-2010 at 3:13PM |
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 2:18PM |
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Thanks Jim!
PM sent on another subject.
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 1:28PM |
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It isn't "squished" to the point I would worry. It's my
opinion that using this new mount this way should work perfectly. And the best part is you can use the old bolts. As far as all your questions cowboy, I don't know if any one could answer accurately. I know this is what I plan to do with no worries. The body is supported to the frame by the rubber bushing, and this way, will reduce body roll over the stock bushings but be a little softer than the poly bushings. Sounds like a win - win to me. Which is good.
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 12:02PM |
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So stock it is fatter/taller than the original Torino bushing, cut the center like showed and it will be same height as stock Torino.
How much FATTER does it get after it is torqued down compared to the original Torino?
Will the extra fattness cause an issue anywhere? Like inside the frame rail rubbing the sides causing premature failure?
Other premature failure question is... if we SQUISH it further than it was intended will it cause premature failure or splitting?
Can you cut down the new bushing to Torino height same as the center sleeve to make it SQUISH OUT less to make it work better?
I guess asking about OVER tension on the rubber it is not designed to handle?
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 6:40AM |
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OK, I just got them today. Shorten up the steel part like Jim said and you're good to go!!
First pic shows the original one at the left (2 parts) with the new one (bottom only) to the right  2nd pic shows the new one (bottom only) on the left and an old CV one beside it (both parts)  3rd pic is looking down at all of them.  Edited by iangj - 17-December-2010 at 8:32AM |
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 2:24AM |
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Someone started a new thread instead of adding on to the original one. From what I have seen on THIS thread... seems to be the perfect new body mount option that is readily available.
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Posted: 16-December-2010 at 6:27PM |
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Without reading 4 pages.. Why do we have TWO threads about body insulator bushings?
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Posted: 16-December-2010 at 2:34PM |
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This thread should be a sticky also and put under the first thread.......
1972 - 1979 Body Insulator Bushings |
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 8:06AM |
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I have a few good original ones so when the Crown Vic ones arrive I can take a side-by-side for you.
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 5:31AM |
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Maybe. Have to wait for the new ones to arrive. And, bear in mind my old ones were original and I don't recall any of them coming out of the car that seemed to not be deformed all the hell.
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 5:28AM |
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Dumb question here...
Can you do a side by side pic of the new and old one MOUNTED like the pic of the new one you have?
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 4:32AM |
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Thanks much for posting this info. My body is due back next week and we'll be putting these to use!
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