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    Posted: 20-September-2010 at 1:42PM
Big smileI HAVE FINALLY COME UP WITH THE PERFECT MOUNT.

Follow this topic and then read my conclusion!

CONCLUSION:
OK, here it is.........................

Buy 10 body mounts for a 2003 - 2009 Ford Crown Victoria with a 2006 part number.
THE PART NO's. ARE (UPPER MOUNT)6W1Z-5400396-A AND (LOWER) 6W1Z-5C155-AA. YOU CAN ORDER THESE PARTS WHOLESALE THRU BOB UTTER FORD OUT OF TEXAS.

Take the center "tube" (shiny one) and cut it down with a tube cutter to 1 1/4". The ugly one is the old one for comparison.


Here is a pic of it cut.



Don't forget to dress on the grinder.

This is why you have to cut the tube...........

The new one on the left is too fat between the body and frame. This will change after you cut the tube.

This is it in the frame and at stock height.

The best part as you can see is I am able to reuse the original bolts. Just clean up and coat with Loctite.

Next..........I will find a solution to the 2 core support mounts.

Stay tuned WinkBig smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lynchster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-September-2010 at 1:47PM
Good deal. Thanks for the knowledge.
 
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Genius! I look forward to seeing the rad support mounts.

What is the cost on these, roughly?
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Originally posted by Psquare75 Psquare75 wrote:

What is the cost on these, roughly?

$10.68 top (6W1Z-5400396-A) & $9.44 bottom ( 6W1Z-5C155-AA) x 10 mounts = $201.20 Westway Ford Parts Department.


 
I know Bob Utter Ford has them, but they're cheapest at Westway Ford Parts Department Wink 


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Nicely done there Jim.

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do you need to trim down the rubber part of the mount as well?
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Originally posted by cowboyupdjcarl cowboyupdjcarl wrote:

do you need to trim down the rubber part of the mount as well?

Nope. When you tighten it down, it squooshes to a perfect fit.Wink
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Are these installed in your car now?
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Originally posted by Psquare75 Psquare75 wrote:

Are these installed in your car now?

Body won't be back on the frame until atleast next summer.
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....... I really don't want to have to be the first one to do before and after pics. 
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This is the mount on the frame and it is completely tight as if bolted
to the body. You will notice the big washer that I used under the nut
in place of the body. It is the exact size as original. I guess this is the 
before shot. I can't do the after shot 'til later down the road.Approve

 



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We need rad support bushings, as well.. I spoke with Andy, he said what he used collapsed over the years. 
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Originally posted by Psquare75 Psquare75 wrote:

We need rad support bushings, as well.. I spoke with Andy, he said what he used collapsed over the years. 

I'm working on that. Will post when I find something acceptable.Wink
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Thanks much for posting this info. My body is due back next week and we'll be putting these to use!
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Dumb question here...
Can you do a side by side pic of the new and old one MOUNTED like the pic of the new one you have?
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Maybe. Have to wait for the new ones to arrive.  And, bear in mind my old ones were original and I don't recall any of them coming out of the car that seemed to not be deformed all the hell.
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I have a few good original ones so when the Crown Vic ones arrive I can take a side-by-side for you.
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This thread should be a sticky also and put under the first thread.......

1972 - 1979 Body Insulator BushingsWink


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Without reading 4 pages.. Why do we have TWO threads about body insulator bushings? Ermm
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Someone started a new thread instead of adding on to the original one.

From what I have seen on THIS thread... seems to be the perfect new body mount option that is readily available.
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OK, I just got them today. Shorten up the steel part like Jim said and you're good to go!!
First pic shows the original one at the left (2 parts) with the new one (bottom only) to the right

2nd pic shows the new one (bottom only) on the left and an old CV one beside it (both parts)

3rd pic is looking down at all of them.


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So stock it is fatter/taller than the original Torino bushing, cut the center like showed and it will be same height as stock Torino.
 
How much FATTER does it get after it is torqued down compared to the original Torino?
Will the extra fattness cause an issue anywhere? Like inside the frame rail rubbing the sides causing premature failure?
 
Other premature failure question is... if we SQUISH it further than it was intended will it cause premature failure or splitting?
 
Can you cut down the new bushing to Torino height same as the center sleeve to make it SQUISH OUT less to make it work better?
 
I guess asking about OVER tension on the rubber it is not designed to handle?
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It isn't "squished" to the point I would worry. It's my 
opinion that using this new mount this way should 
work perfectly. And the best part is you can use the
old bolts.
As far as all your questions cowboy, I don't know if any
one could answer accurately. I know this is what I plan
to do with no worries. 
The body is supported to the frame by the rubber bushing, 
and this way, will reduce body roll over the stock bushings 
but be a little softer than the poly bushings. Sounds like a 
win - win to me. Which is good.
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Thanks Jim!
 
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We'll know real soon. I bought the bushings as described and cut the metal tube to the 1.25" height. Have them lined up for the body install in the next few days. Sorry the picture didn't work too well. I've got ten of them out on the body held in place with some extremely light and tacky glue to ease installation.

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Question - can anyone tell me the space between the inner part of the frame and the body when the body is installed?

I want to run a -8AN line down the inside of the passenger side frame rail. This line is about 5/8" to 3/4" OD and wish to know if there is that much space available between the frame and body.

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Factory lines on the Torino, are a 3/8" line, I would think you should have clearance on you lines.
Let me go crawl under mine.
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Damn, cold out there. I had to do the ole finger check. With my 3/8" line, I got one of my fat fingers in between the line and the body. I am guessing at this point, you are only going to have maybe 7/8" of an inch.
Sorry it's not more exacting...but I have too much junk on the floor to really lay down and check right now.

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Thank you, that is helpful and I think it is enough space as along as I keep the line tight to the frame.
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what's the harm in installing the CV bushings un-modified?
 
other than shimming the core support to match(which i need to do anyway) and having enough room to run my -10 fuel return line on top of the frame... slightly longer bolts if needed doesn't seem like a deal breaker. i'm not doing a Pebble Beach resto 
 
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