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GranTorinoSport
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To lower the front end I presume? |
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Psquare75
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Yes.. That and I really had no complaints with the handling. Just use the larger front bar.
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Paul
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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
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302ford
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That looks like a decent kit. I used all energy suspension pieces. I'm not to sure on how the price compares to the PST stuff but I have no complaints. I lubed them up when I installed them and they have never squeeked |
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79 LTD II 408/TKO/3.7's
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fordpower
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I mentioned this before I purchased my bushings springs etc from www. suspension.com email Sales@suspension.com phone #209 578 5101. They were very helpfull as for price I did not check around.They did mention some must be drilled or burned out as the metal insret does not come with all bushings.
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lynchster
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As a matter fact I am. I decided to go with their poly-graphite bushings front and rear. The only problem I ran into was the lack of bushings for the competition package rear upper control arms.
For now I'm prepping a standard set of upper control arms until I can figure something out. I talked to them about it and was told acquiring the "harris number" for the bushings would be ideal to come up with something to use. But I've had no luck so far.
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Chuck
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GranTorinoSport
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Doing some more research for the suspension list.
Drag (center) link for 74-76: DS901 or DS822? I see both in my searches? Which is the correct part? |
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GranTorinoSport
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Or a DS818 for 1974?
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Psquare75
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Wait, they made different pieces?
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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GranTorinoSport
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DS903 77-79?
I think 72/73 was somewhat different, but I did not know 74-up was, I thought they were all the same. I can't find a good reference to nail it down. Since the parts are only available on ebay, etc, it's tough to find. I'll check NAPA's webpage. Might shed some light. |
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GranTorinoSport
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Searching through NAPA, I got 371 search results for "suspension and steering" for a 75 Torino.
Over half of those items were rags, safety (sun) glasses and other junk. Unbelievable. Never did find a center link. Napa is not what it used to be. I think they're selling to a different crowd nowadays or something. |
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GranTorinoSport
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Another question:
Brakes (hydraulic components) - Bendix or Raybestos Pro Grade? |
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Psquare75
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I've got 76 Elite suspension in my 78 *shrug*.
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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GranTorinoSport
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Just bought a new TRW branded DS-822 off evilbay. We'll see what I get. It *apparently* is correct.
Wish I had a reference. |
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Ok I almost give up how do you get the core support bushing out? The nut is off and the bolt just spins. Does the metal sleve have threads? Burn it out pound it out?
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Regul8r
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Learned something new today that I thought I should pass along...
Months ago I picked up my suspension parts from the machine shop, he blasted them clean and installed all the new bushings for me. There was a problem with the upper control arm and bushings. He installed the bushings with the shafts on the UCAs... the nut will not tighten down. Seems like the shaft all of a sudden shrunk? Well that is true to a point! The shaft did not shrink, but Ford lengthened the shaft March 15th 1972 to accomodate a longer bushing. March 14th and before the bushing is 1.51" long March 15th and after the bushing is 1.82" long THAT explains why the bushing is not letting the nut tighten down. So the UCAs that I used from the 72 Montego must have been built before March 14th. So I have to go buy the right bushings. I also ran into differences between the Center Link and the Inner Tie Rod End between the 72 Gran Torino and the 76 Elite. So I have to buy a couple new/different parts to totally rebuild the front end on LolaMae.
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Rockatansky
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I love 1972 parts!
I just got to thinkin that I'd like to upgrade my 72 spindles to use 74+ rotors, then I started thinkin caliper brackets for the larger diameter rotors, now we're all the way up to the shafts being different.... maybe??? what year / body would I look for to upgrade to regular parts with no mismatch confusion involved? are the 1972 std diameter rotors a 1 trick pony? no other applications any other years? figures I have 2 complete sets of probably all 1972 crap, needs to be checked out I guess but I'd rather start fresh with known popular & easy to find stuff. easy bushings & big brakes please Edited by Rockatansky - 16-February-2014 at 1:38PM |
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GranTorinoSport
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You can use your 72 spindles with the 72 wheel bearings, get 72 T-bird rotors and a caliper bracket from any 72-76 full size. Brake pads are the same.
That is a winning combination for larger front brakes with all factory parts. You get 1" larger rotor, and maintain your 5x4.5 wheel bolt pattern. |
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Rockatansky
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so the 74+ spindles don't get me large rotors because they're all 5x5, but they do get me cheap 10.7" rotors with my same caliper brackets & slot vent rotors are an option and cheaper than 72 T-bird stock rotors. chit the 72 10.7" slot & vent rotors are cheaper than the stock 72 T-bird rotors Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! looks like another idea / project on hold-lock until winter blinks & I can bust all my components down & see what I actually have out there. both cars everything came from were 72's but at this late date anything can be possible 72 T-bird rotors & caliper brackets from 72-76 full size... why not 77+ with 11.8 rotors? |
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GranTorinoSport
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I am not sure about 77+ 11.8" rotors. I have heard about them, but have never seen them in person. I am also not sure that any 11.8" rotor on a mid-size would come with anything other than 5x5 bolt pattern from the factory (and I would envision this, if it exists, would be a police package thing?)
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Rockatansky
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you're right, looked at many 11.8 rotors & they're all 5x5
what I was asking is about the caliper brackets from 77+ vehicles that use 11.8 rotors I'm not getting bitten by a multitude of caliper brackets available anywhere |
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Big Bird
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The 77+ 11.8 caliper bracket is the same as the fullsize 11.8 bracket. The spindles 73-79 are the same as 73-78 fullsize. The calipers and pads are the same regardless if diameter.
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GranTorinoSport
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Were those police applications on the 77+ mid-size?
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Big Bird
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"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
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72FordGTS
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Just a note for the differences in the 1972 Control arms. The early design was the same parts used on the 1965+ fullsize Fords. The shaft is also different depending on the bushing size. These weren't 1972 only parts, as the fullsize cars used them for many years previous. The same goes for the bolt on ball joints. The older fullsize cars also used this style of joint at times.
The 1972 parts aren't as rare as they first may seem. |
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Vince
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Rockatansky
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I saw a post that stated the control arms dated back into the mid 60's on full size, maybe it was just Energy Suspension that is discontinuing the early bushings?
can't remember where I rolled across that I found a pair of caliper brackets for $100 each side with back shields... $220 delivered and about the same for the rotors is a little rich for me today |
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This is great info for me because we're going to replace the drum setup on our 67 LTD with Torino discs. It appears that a lot of it will be bolt on. Thanks guys.
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Joe
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Big Bird
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Joe
The entire "knee assembly" swaps over for a disc brake conversion. Use torino upper control arm, lower control arm, shafts, and spindles. You MAY have to change your outer tie rod end. Swap in a disc master cylinder as well. Not sure anymore about radius rods, I would check them for fit and condition. They like to rot in their bushings. Edited by Big Bird - 20-February-2014 at 11:15AM |
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Why would you have to change the control arms? The spindles should swap over with the stock LTD arms. The upper arms are identical to the early 1972 cars. And the ball joints are the same.
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Vince
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