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Psquare75
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Posted: 12-February-2006 at 5:46PM |
Did this plate ever change? the one that the power brake booster bolts to which is actually inside of the car? Reason being... I currently have a single diaphragm brake booster (the 11.5" unit), I wanted to upgrade to the 9" double. Hoping the bolt pattern is the same. |
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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GranTorinoSport
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Already done that mod. Yes, it works! 100% interchange. The only issue is the dual diaphram units are longer and may interfere with underhood equipment (in your case, I'd look at cruise control equipment if you have it). That is the only issue, oh and you will have to bend the brake hydraulic lines to move forward to the new master cylinder location.
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Psquare75
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Well, I ordered one at the 'zone. I have two of the single diaphragm types, that I can pawn off on eBay.. so I won't be out much money.. Hope this helps my rear disc issues
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GranTorinoSport
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Rear Disc issues?
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Psquare75
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Not enough pressure to the rear disc brakes.. Did some research and spoke with a few people.. There's a reason that the mid 70s lincolns came with hydroboost. . |
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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GranTorinoSport
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Are you using a Lincoln-style proportioning valve that provides the 50/50 front/rear?
If you are and you are still having insufficient hydraulic pressure to the rear discs, then certainly this is something that needs to be looked at. As I am trying to get together the "ideal" rear disc conversion, this is an important piece of information. Please update me when you have the new booster installed, I am very anxious to hear your results. |
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Psquare75
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I'm not only using the Lincoln prop valve, I have one I GUTTED too.. same deal. I'll keep everyone updated.
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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JimW
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Once again, we have the leading edge of Intermediate Ford performance represented on this site. Great stuff.. (someone should just figure out how to reliably use all new cop car stuff on our cars and make a kit, that'd sell pretty well as long as it fit under 15's.. Nice new, easy to locate parts, no rarities or mix-n-match, would be even better to use their front suspension to eliminate the track rods) :-) Jim |
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GranTorinoSport
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Agreed Jim! We do have some of the best and most forefront of technology of 70's mid-size upgrades here. It is stuff like this that makes our cars upgradeable as still-desireable daily drivers. Improvements like 4-wheel disc brakes and many of the other things discussed make driving in traffic every day to work liveable in a dated car. Just think - many of the features of newer cars, yet the comfort of your old mid-size Ford. Sounds like a win-win situation to me! |
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JimW
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Now all I need is ABS and AST and DSC.. (and A/C) :-)
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Psquare75
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AST? DSC? BLT? What? Also, the booster helped. Consensus is, my rear tires are just too heavy to really lock up (at least below 30 on hard dry ground). My buddy with a Sentra.. we tried some experiements, and we also couldn't get the rear discs to lock under the same conditions.. I plan to hit the local mall in a week or two, later at night, and do some, err 'tests' there. Maybe I should make a video. With the 3.5s, the Cougar will "Squeak" the tires now. |
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Paul
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GranTorinoSport
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So did the Lincoln proportioning valve help? Did you need any further adjustments? Did the booster solve the problem? You mentioned it helped and you were going to do some more tests?
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Psquare75
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Well, I haven't had a chance to for 3 reasons. 1. Weather still is lousy. 2. The car has developed this wonderful thing where it won't rev over 2K in gear.. I'm thinking either fuel filter or a stuck float, so the car has been parked for a few weeks. 3. I still am going to do the 12" front rotor swap.. no sense in baselining it only to take things apart. 4. Spare time is lately spent cleaning and putting things on ebay. 5. I can't think of any more excuses. Consensus is however, that the carbon metallic pads aren't all that hot for cold stopping. I'm going to pad experiment if it still isn't what I had hoped. |
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GranTorinoSport
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Paul,
What is the latest with the Porportioning Valve?
I am just now getting my stainless brake lines in from InLineTube.com and there is one fitting that was too big at the valve (correct line size, but a larger style B-nut), so before I start cutting and re-flaring lines...
Since I plan to put the Motorcraft rear disc setup on, I'd like to know which porportioning valve to get.
Further, it seems that there are no new replacement valves available. I could only find an adjustable from Stainless Steel Brakes.
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Psquare75
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To be honest, I haven't done much, lol.
Either a Lincoln 4 wheel prop valve, or gut a disc/drum piece. I had a website saved that showed how to do it exactly in regards to a Ford piece.
I used a gutted 4 wheel prop valve with an adjustable in line after it.
I think I have an extra 4 wheel lincoln one around, I can look.
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Paul
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GranTorinoSport
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If you do, that would be great. Let me know how much you want for it and I can PayPal the $$$ to you including shipping.
It would probably be a better choice than a generic from SS Brakes. I can't imagine the proportion that the Lincoln has would really be that much different that what a Torino with rear disc needs...
I do know I will have to put some different B-nuts on the lines coming in, but that's no problem (I just got a double-flare kit).
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