Steering column bearings

So I'm a victim of a wobbly steering wheel. The problem is in the top end of the column.. Anyone know where I can source a bearing.. or if there is even one available?

Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

This is what I get for selling my steering column :-/

Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

Gary, could you please? The column is a tilt wheel column from a 78 Lincoln Mark V. I suspect the bearings are the same as for the Torino style tilt (columns are extremely similar).

Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

Here's a problem I've been living with, maybe it's bearings as well. You can pull the wheel out about 1/2" on my car, when you do this, it shuts the car off (turns the key back). Any thoughts? I originally thought it was the rag joint, but replacing it many years ago didn't change it.. (been the same for the last 16 years)

Jim

1976 S&H Gran Torino

460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6

545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8

More to come!!!!

463rwhp/495rwtq

two tons of fun

see it and hear it at:

www.torinocobra.com

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Do you have a tilt column? Sounds like a snap ring in the column is gone

Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler

"Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

Tilt wheel here as well. How tough is that to get to and is it a normal snap ring?

As for being a nice kill switch, it's fun until you forget and accidentally tug on it while racing (manually shifting).. Then you look like an idiot.

:-)

Jim

1976 S&H Gran Torino

460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6

545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8

More to come!!!!

463rwhp/495rwtq

two tons of fun

see it and hear it at:

www.torinocobra.com

www.st

Is it possible to do the upper bearing with the column still in the car? I have a service manual, and it doesn't really say. Should I just as well do both bearings?

Also.. YOU ARE MY HERO! :-)

Edited by Psquare75 - 18-July-2006 at 2:38AM

Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

Not to change the subject of this thread too much, but I figured it was a good place for my question:

So I have the new AGR variable ratio steering gear in (I took pictures, but I need to pare down the size before I stick them up here). I have not yet cut the coupling rivets to replace the rag joint (have a polyurethane one). The way it looked, I assumed I was better off taking the column out of the car.

SO, I am faced with a couple of questions:

1. Should I get a new column? I found a tilt one with cruise for like $130. The existing column is non-tilt, and the shifter keeps coming apart because the roll pin slips out.

2. How difficult is column removal for a car I intend to drive? I have ripped them out before.... On cars I did not intend to drive again. Basically, are there any tricks or wisdom I need to know, or is it straightforward now that I have the coupling disconnected? I know there is wiring, the boot, the transmission cable and the collar mount to structure.

3. Where can I find a rim-blow steering wheel? I was interested in one, although I it seems that they go for a premium, so I might not be that interested. After spending $400 on the steering gear, I am not sure I want to spend another $400 on the steering wheel, if you know what I mean.

4. And, to make it fit in with this post, I will rebuild the column when out to include new bearings.

Scott Eklund

Webmaster

That's why I sold mine to a Mustang freak that had to have OEM style wheel for the Mustang that will sit in the garage most of the year!! LOL! Gary

Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler

"Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

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Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Steering column bearings Posted: 15-July-2006 at 8:01AM
	So I'm a victim of a wobbly steering wheel. The problem is in the top end of the column.. Anyone know where I can source a bearing.. or if there is even one available?
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

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	I heard of something at one point in time. Let me think about it for a bit and see if I can remember. I think I will eventually need some for my 75 Sport when I do that one as well...
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Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16-July-2006 at 3:30AM
	This is what I get for selling my steering column :-/
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

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	Paul the bearings are still availablr from Ford, do you want me to check them out fro price and availibity? It is what I do on a daily basis let me know. Gary
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler "Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16-July-2006 at 8:10AM
	Gary, could you please? The column is a tilt wheel column from a 78 Lincoln Mark V. I suspect the bearings are the same as for the Torino style tilt (columns are extremely similar).
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

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	I will do it tomorrow at work and will let you know by the P.M. Gary
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler "Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

JimW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09-December-2003 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 602	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-July-2006 at 1:20AM
	Here's a problem I've been living with, maybe it's bearings as well. You can pull the wheel out about 1/2" on my car, when you do this, it shuts the car off (turns the key back). Any thoughts? I originally thought it was the rag joint, but replacing it many years ago didn't change it.. (been the same for the last 16 years) Jim
	1976 S&H Gran Torino 460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6 545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8 More to come!!!! 463rwhp/495rwtq two tons of fun see it and hear it at: www.torinocobra.com www.st

Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-July-2006 at 1:30AM
	Wow.. I guess that's a nice safety kill switch you have there.. And here I am just not wanting to drive the car at all with that small bit of play.
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

Torinogts73c Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14-February-2004 Location: Tucson Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1034	Post Options Post Reply Quote Torinogts73c Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-July-2006 at 1:36AM
	Do you have a tilt column? Sounds like a snap ring in the column is gone
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler "Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-July-2006 at 3:11AM
	Yes, it's tilt. The most I've had the column apart was to put a wheel on it. the wheel doesn't move in towards the engine and out towards me. but rather it moves up towards the roof and down towards the floor pan.. the tilt itself stays still, it's the center shaft that the wheel bolts onto. Edit: Ahhh! you meant JimW. Ignore what I said. Edited by Psquare75 - 17-July-2006 at 6:22AM
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

JimW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09-December-2003 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 602	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-July-2006 at 8:21AM
	Tilt wheel here as well. How tough is that to get to and is it a normal snap ring? As for being a nice kill switch, it's fun until you forget and accidentally tug on it while racing (manually shifting).. Then you look like an idiot. :-) Jim
	1976 S&H Gran Torino 460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6 545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8 More to come!!!! 463rwhp/495rwtq two tons of fun see it and hear it at: www.torinocobra.com www.st

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	Best bet is to pull the column out of the car work on it on a table or held in place with a clamp or maybe a vice. The snap ring is an internal type and Ford still makes them. Part number for upper brg is C7SZ-3517-C THE lower brg is F23Z-3517-A If you have problems with local dealers let me know as I have the correct parts in stock where I work. 1-800-350-3673 option #4 or E-mail gmoore@htford.com
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler "Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18-July-2006 at 2:37AM
	Is it possible to do the upper bearing with the column still in the car? I have a service manual, and it doesn't really say. Should I just as well do both bearings? Also.. YOU ARE MY HERO! :-) Edited by Psquare75 - 18-July-2006 at 2:38AM
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

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	I did do it once but I also had a bad lower bearing as well. BTW The part number F23Z-3517-A should be F23Z-3517-B THE RETAINING CLIP IS DOAZ-3C610-A now . Have a great day gentlemen! Gary
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler "Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

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	Not to change the subject of this thread too much, but I figured it was a good place for my question: So I have the new AGR variable ratio steering gear in (I took pictures, but I need to pare down the size before I stick them up here). I have not yet cut the coupling rivets to replace the rag joint (have a polyurethane one). The way it looked, I assumed I was better off taking the column out of the car. SO, I am faced with a couple of questions: 1. Should I get a new column? I found a tilt one with cruise for like $130. The existing column is non-tilt, and the shifter keeps coming apart because the roll pin slips out. 2. How difficult is column removal for a car I intend to drive? I have ripped them out before.... On cars I did not intend to drive again. Basically, are there any tricks or wisdom I need to know, or is it straightforward now that I have the coupling disconnected? I know there is wiring, the boot, the transmission cable and the collar mount to structure. 3. Where can I find a rim-blow steering wheel? I was interested in one, although I it seems that they go for a premium, so I might not be that interested. After spending $400 on the steering gear, I am not sure I want to spend another $400 on the steering wheel, if you know what I mean. 4. And, to make it fit in with this post, I will rebuild the column when out to include new bearings.
	Scott Eklund Webmaster

Psquare75 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4591	Post Options Post Reply Quote Psquare75 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-August-2006 at 6:10AM
	1. If you want a tilt, now is the time to do it. 2. The column is easy. The hard part is the collar at the base. Other than that,4 bolts, some wires, and the shift cable. You need the gauge cluster out, but you knew that. 3. Rim blow sucks. I had one. Ever drive with one?
	Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 SOLD 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500

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	That's why I sold mine to a Mustang freak that had to have OEM style wheel for the Mustang that will sit in the garage most of the year!! LOL! Gary
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler "Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford

GranTorinoSport Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Admin of "The Org" Joined: 20-May-2003 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 2287	Post Options Post Reply Quote GranTorinoSport Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20-August-2006 at 3:36AM
	Thanks for the comments. I ordered a steering column with tilt - from a 74 Torino. I don't know if it has cruise or not, but I guess we will see. And I have scrapped the idea of a rim blow wheel. I do like the 74-76 style wheel, so I will stick with that. Got the steering gear in, so I will pull the existing column and ready the new one when it arrives so that I can have the new rag joint ready to go.
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