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72 RS 351
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Good work, good hard work.
How do you decide when to use the POR putty versus the seam sealer? Is the POR putty a harder material when cured and best for contouring/shaping before paint? I've never used the POR and discovered the Eastwood line when it came out. |
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Don
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TV 2M8O
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Don,
The POR Putty is VERY strong! When I first came upon it, I took a wad and flattened it out to about an 1/8" thick and let it cure, then tried breaking it in half..... I WAS VERY SURPRISED how much force it took, so I use it when I need to fill/contour areas that will have some depth to them. I use the seam sealer to flow into the seams and remain a bit pliable.....
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lookin' good joe! keep at it, your getting the hard, b.s. stuff done and out of the way, you're having that body shop paint it? so then you should be able to move right along on it then!
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JOHN
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72 RS 351
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Thanks Joe, I'll look into it. Our Performance products carries the POR products here, but not the Eastwood stuff. |
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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
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TV 2M8O
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**CLICK ON PICS TO ENLARGE AND CLICK AGAIN TO SUPERSIZE**
Broke out the quart of Eastwood Brushable Seam Sealer and started sealing up the floor pan seams. I've had the stuff since 2009 at the dealership in a cabinet in an uncontrolled temperature area of the shop that saw temperature extremes between about 40 & 110+ and I thought for sure the stuff would be unusable, but suprisingly, the sealer was still very creamy and spreadable and flowed very well sealing the underbody floor seams of the Tomato.....
Next up is prepping the front wheelhouses and core support for paint. Edited by TV 2M8O - 28-September-2014 at 6:13AM |
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72 RS 351
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Great, and it's good to know that they make a seam sealer also.
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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
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TV 2M8O
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**CLICK ON PICS TO ENLARGE AND CLICK AGAIN TO SUPERSIZE**
I pulled the front wheelhouses and core support into the paint booth and washed them down in preperation for a coat of POR15.... and hit both side of
the core support....
I also got the frame
cavity in the underbody and the frame rails POR15ed and first coated with
Eastwood Satin Chassis Black. Next weekend, I'll be shooting the underbody with POR15 and top coating with the Eastwood Chassis Black! Edited by TV 2M8O - 28-September-2014 at 6:40AM |
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californiajohnny
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see! you're moving right along now! (even the penguin looks more enthusiastic)
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JOHN
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John, No the car isn't at the body shop that will be doing final bodywork and paint yet.... it's still at the dealership in their abandoned body shop area. Chrysler stole their DODGE franchise back during the whole Detroit bail-out scam, so now as a used car sales and service/repair shop they had no need to keep the body shop open nor fight with OSHA & the EPA about the various regulations a paint center must adhere to. Just a good ole boy shade tree mechanic making use of the available facilities!
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californiajohnny
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joe,are going to take "a leap of faith" and spray away! yourself??? if i can do it, you can do it?!
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JOHN
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John, I'm gonna shoot the non-beauty parts and leave the purddy stuff for the Professionals.... LOL, I only want to paint this baby ONCE!!!
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just messin' with ya joe, but that's how i learned! by trying
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JOHN
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John,LOL, that's why I'm shooting the non-beauty parts myself.... a few runs, drips, etc were common on the chassis parts and under hood areas!!Gonna shoot the interior and trunk black as you did to help hide the red from showing around door and trim panels. I'll be using the deluxe trunk dress up kit in my trunk so the exposed sheet metal will "disappear" when shot black.
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72 RS 351
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You can practice on those lesser parts that get runs on them. The pros use a razor blade to remove runs. They literally scrape them off to virtually level, and then buff it smooth. I've watched it done many times, one was on a beautiful red 1968 Mustang with gold pearl in it, plus a thin silver stripe that was in the mid coat. The run was going down the door under the handle area, and when finished you couldn't see it. It was cool to see him drag the razor blade along the fresh clear, he just scraped it flat.
You can do it, just take your time. Edited by 72 RS 351 - 29-September-2014 at 7:56AM |
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Don
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"runs" should have used krylon! they used to advertize "no runs, no drips, no errors" remember that???
i've shaved them with a razor blade, and used masking tape to lift a fresh run off. Edited by californiajohnny - 29-September-2014 at 1:11PM |
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JOHN
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Looks
pretty good but I definately need to shoot some black INSIDE the frame rails!
LOL, that will be first thing on the list to do on Saturday!
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damn! joe, you're a master painter and don't know it!!!
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JOHN
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Thanks John ......
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**CLICK ON PICS TO ENLARGE AND CLICK AGAIN TO SUPERSIZE**
Next weekend, the agenda is to apply the seam sealer along the wheelhouses and the joints
on the firewall and get those areas painted with POR15 and coated with some
chassis black.
Edited by TV 2M8O - 04-October-2014 at 11:57AM |
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californiajohnny
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daaammn joe! lookin' good! before you know it, that penguin will be laying down a rubber road
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JOHN
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awesome
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~Bryan
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Hey, thanks guys.. LOL, when I got out of the shower, I found I also have some POR15 shading on my arms to remind me all week of the fun I had today!!
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Had company this weekend so was a shortened play day Saturday...
I shot the core support with POR15 Self Etching Primer so it can be finish coated with Eastwood Underhood Black... I
also got the front suspension broken down and several parts staged for taking to
have acid dipped to clean the rust, grease and grime off of... Next
week I plan to apply the seam sealer to the rear wheelhouses and to the firewall
and cowl areas.
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moving right along joe!
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JOHN
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LOOKING GOOD JOSE'
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I got the firewall, cowl area and wheelhouses masked and ready for seam
sealer...
also inspected
the hood hinges and transmission crossmember I had cleaned at the local plating
company.... and
got the bumper reinforcements, front suspension and steering linkages and front
bumper hangers ready to drop off Wednesday to have them cleaned by the
platers... Edited by TV 2M8O - 19-October-2014 at 7:01AM |
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**CLICK ON PICS TO ENLARGE AND CLICK AGAIN TO SUPERSIZE** Got the POR15 and first coat of Chassis Black applied to the
frame.... front wheelhouses.... the core support and rear bumper filler
reinforcement.... My tubes of seam sealer were dried out so I'll have to order a
few new tubes before I can get all the seams sealed up. So I started playing
with my front bumper pushbar idea. Dennis Carpenter sent me an email with the dimensions and profile of their 78-79 F series bumper guard, so I made a cardboard template of the guard and got to it.... Looks promising, so I brought the front bumper home so I can continue to tinker with
the template and get it fine tuned. Edited by TV 2M8O - 25-October-2014 at 10:53AM |
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looking great Joe!!
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keep at it joe! looking great
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**CLICK ON PICS TO ENLARGE AND CLICK AGAIN TO SUPERSIZE**Early last week, I stumbled across an Eastwood tip by Kevin Tetz
where he was using seam sealer in the can to apply the sealer to the seams, so I
bought the mixing board and spatula set to give it a try. The material came in,
so Saturday morning I set about giving it a try...
I used a paint mixing stick to stir up the sealer (added a little
Eastwood PRE to thin it slightly) and scooped up a medium sized glob and mixed
it a bit more on the board with the spreader. I then got a bit on the spreader
and started across the top seam on the firewall... the technique didn't work too
well on the overlap nor around the nib that ticks out from the seam nor on the
seam that immediately rolls under, so I devised a new approach.... using a 1"
wide brush, I applied the sealer along the seams, pulled the tape and then
feathered and smoothed the sealer using a 2" brush wetted with the PRE. Worked
pretty well to give the sealer a smooth "professional" look...... Here's a closer view of one of the more complex area..... I also got my inner braces tacked into my rear control
arms.... I'll turn it over to a pro to do the finish welding and the
boxing of the arms. This week, I'll order some more seam sealer (tubes and can) from
Eastwood so next weekend I can seal the rear wheelhouse seams, then wipe down
the cowl and firewall area to remove the film of seam sealer caused by the
smoothing technique and then apply the POR15 and the first coat of Eastwood
Underhood Satin Black. Once all that has dried then I will apply the finish coat
of Chassis Black to the chassis and underbody and Underhood Black to the
firewall and then it will be time to reassemble and hang the rear end!!
OMG.... Did I just utter the word REASSEMBLE??? Edited by TV 2M8O - 09-November-2014 at 8:26AM |
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