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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

i was gonna point out regarding a reference to using 1973 parts somewhere up above...
 
just skip over thinking about using a 73 as a donor car unless you can verify that it's a late m/y build date with the 74+ style spindles. 73 was a transition year
 
Cardone 16-4083 & 16-4084 'bolt-on-ready' calipers include brackets
 
 
 



I asked Cardone  about 18-4083/ 18-4084, 16-4083/ 16-4084 and got the following answer:

"We do not offer  these part numbers with brackets. "

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If you need "late" spindles, I have a full setup.
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I need a pair of caliper mounting brackets for the big (11 13/16”) rotor.
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im going to use this ones on my sw, they are 14 " with the six piston calipers from the corvette.
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Originally posted by TomiTomi TomiTomi wrote:

I asked Cardone  about 18-4083/ 18-4084, 16-4083/ 16-4084 and got the following answer: "We do not offer  these part numbers with brackets. " Cry 
 
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Originally posted by galhetas galhetas wrote:

im going to use this ones on my sw, they are 14 " with the six piston calipers from the corvette.


Been watching on your facebook page.   I wish I had the computer/ design abilitys you have to do this for my car.   Looking forward to seeing how it all turns out.
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Originally posted by galhetas galhetas wrote:

im going to use this ones on my sw, they are 14 " with the six piston calipers from the corvette.
 That wagon should stop on a dime and give back $.09 with those front brakes. You going with rear discs as well? Very nice. A little grindin' on the Corvette script and they would be perfect Wink.
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Thanks guys thought you all where going to call me crazy for using this brakes, yes i also want to use the 13" corvette rear disk brakes, but first i want to get the design of the spindles done first.And also the plan is to erase the corvette letters and engrave torino on them
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Originally posted by galhetas galhetas wrote:

Thanks guys thought you all where going to call me crazy for using this brakes, yes i also want to use the 13" corvette rear disk brakes, but first i want to get the design of the spindles done first.And also the plan is to erase the corvette letters and engrave torino on them


Love it.Clap  looking forward to seeing pics of that.   Be sure to post pics all over the Chevy forums of that processClap
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Late to the party, but why not use OEM spindles with brackets to adapt the Vette calipers?
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Im not using oem spindles i have desighn dropped spindles to use the corvette brakes
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Ah, I didn't see the 'dropped' part. 

Carry on. 
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 12" 72-73 front brake upgrade >>> stock spindles + full size lincoln caliper brackets[see link for years] + 72 Tbird 12"rotors 5 lug 4 1/2" pattern[only one with same bearings]  use original calipers. http://www.torinocobra.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=20650   copy and paste link.

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Originally posted by TomiTomi TomiTomi wrote:

I need a pair of caliper mounting brackets for the big (11 13/16”) rotor.


I'm still looking for this part. Could anyone give me the part number?

It can be found on the following models:
1974-1978 Ford LTD
1974-1977 Ford Custom 500
1974-1979 Lincoln Continental
1977-1979 Lincoln Mark V
1974-1978 Mercury Marquis
1974 Mercury Monterey
1974-1976 Mercury Montego
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A guy here in Hungary has two spare Lincolns. After 4 month I could convince him to sell me a pair of caliper brackets. After restoration they look like that:




This is the 11,8" rotor I bought:




It needed a new bolt circle and got some tuning:




And mounted:




The new brake fills the wheels . I had to rebalance the wheel with flatter weights. And the centering ring doesn't fit anymore, a thinner one is needed.


The front brakes got cooling:




So I had to move my number plate to the center:


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WOW! That looks great.
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TomiTomi,
looks great!
 
I have 1 comment,
re-route the brake ducts... move both the inlets to the middle of the bumper with a STRAIGHT line to the rotors (no turns).
 
Brake ducts work off the same principal theory as ram air.
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I'd route them the other way... mounted with a bracket to the bottom of the fender, tucked up hidden from view. 
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Thanks for ideas.
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Well, I'm really late to the party.  However, I'd like to upgrade my brakes to the police handling package disc brakes, as well.  I'd like it to install just like the factory would have done and using the parts Ford would have used.  So far from what I read, all I need to do is buy the appropriate police/taxi rotors from someplace like AutoZone and find caliper brackets off a full size Ford or Lincoln car.  I'm seeing that I can use my existing calipers or rebuilt calipers of the same kind.  My only issue might be the spindle size, considering early or late model year build of my Torino.  My car was built in late February of 1973.  Finally, backing plates for the police brakes???  Do I need to take the backing plates from the full size car, as well?  Thanks! 
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another case of 'I waited too long', somebody bought up all available stock from Rockauto
 
 
I've been watching the list for some time now there's nothing available @ $135 a pop
 
next option is to use the ~ 11.8" rotors wit the 5-5 lug pattern & have them drilled to 5-4.5
to find these I went to a 1978 LTD II Police application
 
these rotors use 1974+ spindles/bearings/seals and the good news is they're $100 cheaper, the bad news they have wrong lug pattern to match your existing wheels & rear axles
 
yup, I need a set of large diameter back shields too, and Yes all the calipers are the same 
 
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Feb 1973 build date you need to determine which spindles you have on your car, and make sure you have all the correct bearings that fit the spindles properly!
 
sometime mid 1973 model year build they changed the spindle from what I call 1972 to 1974+, 1973 uses either of those designations depending upon early or late 1973 build date. the change probably happened mid-shift so on one particular day they started with small spindles & finished off with large spindles... that's how things happen where I work
 
with your build date you could have either, or they may've been changed for the other over the years
 
and it may be possible to have incorrect bearings in the assy
 
 
 


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Thanks for the info.  I've found the rotors.  All I really need are the mounting brackets off a full size car.  I'm told the backing plates are the same for, either, the 10.72" or the 11.72" rotors.  See the below link:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2004/07/12inchBrakeConversion/

The rear can be upgraded using 98 Ford Explorer rear disc brake assembly.  Those are 11.2" rotors with the 5 on 4.5.  And I'm told I'd need to change the master cylinder over to the large Ford master cylinder for cars with front and rear disc brakes.

Plus, I'm told that I'd need to replace my factory 14" Magnum 500 wheels with 15" wheels.  It seems the 14" wheels won't fit over the 11.72 rotors with calipers installed.

I looked at police/taxi rotors for a 74 Torino.  They have the 5 on 5 bolt pattern...  At least, the ones I found for sale by a national store.  I compared wheel bearing sizes between the 72 73 Torino and the 74 Torino.  The 74 bearings are larger.
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Any competent hotrod builder or engineering shop should be able to fab up some brackets to take any calliper.....I'm having that done on mine eventually. Will be able to run a bigger disc and a four or six pot wilwood or whatever up front 
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I think I can find the brackets locally...  I haven't looked, yet.  I used to be pretty familiar with all the local junk yards.  Most any 70 to 77 Ford full size car would have the brackets.  The big thing for me at the moment is...  I just bought $700.00 worth of new tires to mount on my 14" Magnums.  I cannot justify buying 15" wheels and another $700.00 worth of tires.

Plus, I'm thinking of selling my Torino, so I can do some remodeling work to my house.  I have two other muscle cars.  So, the Torino can be sacrificed.  Anyone who might want the car may prefer it to be all original.  If I change the brakes over, that might reduce the price I could sell it for.  Making all the changes to upgrade the brakes would probably cost more than a thousand dollars.  That would be a thousand dollars I'd never see again.  It would not add anything to the value of the car.
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what's the other two muscle cars, you have?
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Originally posted by unlovedford unlovedford wrote:

WOW! That looks great.
 
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Hey John,

I have a 1967 Plymouth  GTX (1st year for the model) with a Super Stock 426 Hemi with two four barrels, a 4 speed and a Dana 60 rear.  It is all new and is never driver due to extreme value and impossibility of replacing super stock parts if the car was somehow damaged.

The second car is a 1994 Roush Mustang Cobra Convertible with factory supercharger and factory side pipes.  Roush equipped some of the cars he built in 1994 with the automatic transmission (Just like the five Indy Pace cars he built for the 94 racing season), which my car has.  This car was wrecked when I bought it.  Now, every piece is brand new.  The engine was professionally race prepped and so was the transmission.  However, the transmission shifts as came from the factory, although it is equipped with the hammer shifter which appears to be factory by fitting inside the factory console as though made for it.

The Torino is 'Q' Code (Four Bolt Main).  It has the heavy duty C6 and 9 3/8" rear pumpkin with 3.50 gears, posi and 31 spline axles.  It has the 2.19 intake and 1.76 exhaust valves in the 4V heads.  It has the factory Ford aluminum intake manifold for a Holley.  It has the 780 CFM dual line Holley.  And it has solid lifters.  The engine was fully race prepped.  And so was the C6, which shifts normally.  Importantly, the car has a complete Shaker Ram Air Hood system on it, which is fully functional.  That is the one with the scoop sticking up through a hole in the hood.  And it shakes.


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Pretty simple interchange:
1972, the torino, tbird, lincoln all swap.
Caliper brackets rotors will all swap based on my episodes with my car and fitting brake parts and wheels.

Converting a car to run bigger brakes on a 74+ spindle, just go find the caliper brackets off a full size LTD, Mercury or Lincoln.

I used to grab these all the time but in the yards our era cars are long dried up at the the u pull it places...

For the rotor you can source them in the 5x5 bolt pattern rady to go no redrilling required.

In the case of 1972 model year spindles and early build 1973 you can run a lincoln Mark4 12" rotor with 5x5 if you wanted to. Add the full size caliper bracket and boom, done.



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