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    Posted: 02-December-2013 at 2:23PM
i have a 73 Gran Torino with an 8 inch rear end.  I'm trying to get new rims but im not sure the bolt pattern i need.  I've looked online and got mixed results between 4.50 and 4.75
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5 bolts on 4.50 circle.
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Yup, 5x4.5.  Don't know of any Ford that would have 5x4.75.  As far as I know, that's a Chevy bolt pattern. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unlovedford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2013 at 2:30AM
Ford small - 5 X 4.5 (5 X 114.3) Same as lots of imports.
Ford large - 5 X 5.5 (5 X 139.7)
GM small - 5 X 4.75 (5 X 121)
GM large - 5 X 5     (5 X 127)

These are the bolt patterns used for years until recently. Now other patterns have been added additionally.
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Ford fullsize 1973-1978 would be 5x5
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I know this is an old thread, but for those searching for answers later, my '72 Gran Torino wagon has a 5x4.25 bolt pattern. I bought 5x4.5 bolt pattern wheels and they didn't go on.

5x4.25 is apparently also a common Mopar pattern.
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Ford intermediates of the 70's have 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern, the full-size cars(Lincoln Continental-the Big T-birds-Mercury Marquis) have 5 on 5" bolt pattern. A 5 on 4.25" bolt pattern were on later model Fords/Lincolns-I believe a Lincoln Mark VIII had the 5 on 4.25"bolt pattern. Unless someone has done something funky to your '72, it should be 5 on 4.5"
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So are the wheels lug centric or hub sentric? What soze hub do I need if I want to use Mustang or Crown Vic wheels?
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1972 Torinos were 5 x 4.5" (same as Mopar) like Todd says. Torion Police cars were 5 x 5" for 1973 and newer.

Wheels were generally hub centric except for Magnum 500's which are lug centric. I am not sure the hub size off the top of my head, but I know several members have used late model Ford wheels. Check the Centric website and look up the rotors. It will show the specs on the hub bore size.
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Thanks. 

77.8mm bore
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So did I measure incorrectly? I went from hole center to hole center across the pattern (in the same way one torques down 5-lug wheels) and got 4.25. I just put new front rotors on, listed as fitting a 1972 Gran Torino, and the wheels fit.

I bought Ford steel wheels from the junkyard. I measured before I put the tires on, and one measured 5 inches at the hole centers, so I swapped it at the junkyard. But those are the ones that didn't fit. So I had the tires remounted on the non-Ford steel wheels that came with the car (except I had to find another Mopar steel wheel because mine had three 15-inch Mopar wheels and one 14-inch Ford wheel when I got it).
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This should help: How Do You Measure Bolt Pattern | TireBuyer.com
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you have to add a smidge when measuring a 5 lug,

cheating from the outside of one stud to the center factors in the smudge
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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

you have to add a smidge when measuring a 5 lug,

cheating from the outside of one stud to the center factors in the smudge
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Also, 60s Ford 5x4.5 had a smaller hub bore, and those wheels won't fit newer cars with the 78mm hubs.
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