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    Posted: 14-August-2014 at 6:06AM
My rear pinion seal was leaking on my 9 inch,pulled seal out last night going to put back in tonight.A tech at work said I will have trouble with preload since it has a crush sleeve.He said impact it until tight and hope for the best.He said he usually ends up with bearing noise after just replacing seal and not rebuilding rearend.Anyone here have the same issues when replacing seal and not tearing down to put in new crush sleeve?Comments advise anyone.Thanks.
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I believe I would pass on his advice.
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Most popular method:

Park the vehicle on level ground. Loosen the lug nuts on the rear wheels. Raise the vehicle with a jack and support it with jack stands. Remove the lug nuts and rear wheels.


Mark the U-joint cap and the pinion yoke with white-out where the cap is seated. Remove the bolts on the U-straps that hold the universal joint onto the pinion yoke. Remove the straps. Remove the universal joint and the driveshaft from the yoke and lower the driveshaft to the ground. Be careful that the caps on the U-joint do not fall off.


Place an inch-pound needle-type torque wrench and socket on the pinion nut. Apply pressure to the torque wrench clockwise and note how many inch-pounds of pressure it takes to move the pinion yoke through a couple of revolutions. Write this value down, as you will need it when you reinstall the nut.


Mark the pinion yoke and the shaft with white-out so you can realign the parts when you put it back together. You will be using a new pinion nut.


Remove the pinion nut (and washer if it has one) by placing a large pipe wrench on the pinion yoke to hold it stationary and using a breaker bar and socket to turn the pinion nut counterclockwise. Note that it will take a lot of force to remove the nut. It is torqued at around 225 ft.-lbs.


Place a drain pan under the rear axle in case any gear oil leaks out when you remove the pinion yoke. Try to pull off the pinion yoke. If you cannot pull it off, use a two-jaw puller to remove it.


Pry out the old pinion seal with a seal removal tool or a small pry bar.


Wipe the area on the axle housing around the pinion seal with a shop rag. Apply a light coat of oil to the inside rubber part of the new gear oil seal. Apply a light coat of gear oil to the outside of the new pinion seal.


Place the new pinion seal against the axle housing and tap it into place using a hammer and seal-installing tool or a large socket that is the same size as the outside diameter of the new seal. Make sure the new seal is completely seated against the axle housing.


Line up the pinion yoke with the painted mark and push on the yoke as far as possible. Install the washer (if it had one) and nut. Tighten the nut with the breaker bar and socket to draw the yoke onto the pinion shaft. After the pinion yoke is fully seated on the shaft, use a torque wrench to tighten the pinion nut to 200 ft.-lbs. while holding the yoke with a pipe wrench.


Switch over to the inch-pound torque wrench and turn the pinion nut. Note the amount of pressure required to turn the nut. At this point the pressure will be less than what you wrote down. Switch back to the torque wrench and increase the torque by 5 ft.-lbs, to 205 ft.-lbs. After obtaining 205 ft.-lbs. of torque, recheck with the inch-pound torque wrench. Keep switching back and forth, increasing the torque by 5 ft.-lbs. until you obtain the same inch-pound force required to originally turn the pinion nut.


Replace the driveshaft and U-joint in the yoke by lining up the marks you painted on the U-joint cap and yoke. Reinstall the u-bolts, washers and nuts. Tighten the nuts.


Raise the vehicle, remove the jack stands and lower the vehicle to the ground.




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Originally posted by unlovedford unlovedford wrote:

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/how_7359683_change-ford-9_inch-rear-end.html
 
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Thanks, Dave!
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I've changed a sh*t ton of pinion seasl. I mark the pinion end and the face of the pinion nut with a sharp chisel, back the nut off with a air gun, change the seal, torque the nut with the air gun. When reinstalling the nut use locktite, tighten the nut just a tab bit more than than how much the nut was loosened. I've only once had a problem doing this, and that car the owner tried to replace the seal by himself before I got it.
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Tighten it down until it snaps and then back it off a half turn!
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Originally posted by 75GranMan 75GranMan wrote:

I've changed a sh*t ton of pinion seasl. I mark the pinion end and the face of the pinion nut with a sharp chisel, back the nut off with a air gun, change the seal, torque the nut with the air gun. When reinstalling the nut use locktite, tighten the nut just a tab bit more than than how much the nut was loosened. I've only once had a problem doing this, and that car the owner tried to replace the seal by himself before I got it.
pretty much the same with marking first, but I count exposed threads, and check rotation force/drag with torque wrench, change seal and reassemble, put nut back on to where it started, measure again w/torque wrench and cross fingers. Only 1 failure (ford 8.8) (and I believe that's because the virgin I sacrificed was suspect)
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Well, y'all go a lot further than I have! Lol
Yup, I mark the U-joint caps to the pinion(if I am replacing U-joint...no need to mark it) and the pinion to the shaft. Use electrical tape around the U-joint caps to keep them from rolling away!
Undo the nut with the impact gun and remove along with washer if there is one.
Remove the yoke, might need some "assistance" gentle taps with a hammer (careful not to damage the U-joint strap holes, use a wood block if it needs A LOT of assistance).
Remove the old seal
Clean the area AND the threads well!
Most pinion seals will have a small bead of a silicone like sealer on the outside surface already, IF not and even if it does...a LIGHT skim coat of Ultra Blue is always encouraged (that stuff is AWESOME)!
Ensure the seal lip is lubed with a light coat of grease to prevent damage on the yoke.
THIS is where I ensure no odd leaks... I put a light skim coat of Ultra Blue on the inside splines of the yoke...this ensures no oil leakage up the splines(YES I have had this happen) then slip the yoke back on with the outer portion lightly lubed with grease to prevent seal damage.
Use some locktight on the nut/pinion threads and hit it with the Impact gun...DONE! Ya ya ya I know, torque and drag... but in reality the pinion is a tapered bearing and the crush sleeve was already set to the proper tensions. My impact is not going to over tighten the bearing as it doesn't put 200plus ft lbs.
Reinstall U-joints/driveshaft and off we go...NEVER had another issue!
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