quick question: 74 headlight housing |
Post Reply |
Author | |
californiajohnny
Moderator Group Joined: 05-October-2013 Location: winlock, wa Status: Offline Points: 14609 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: 19-October-2014 at 2:11PM |
quick question: on the head light housing, is the 74 gran torino a "one year only" thing??? (here is a pic of my right side 74, note the grill mounts and the edge goes straight down)
here is a pic of a 73 (it has a curve there) as does the 75 Edited by californiajohnny - 19-October-2014 at 2:11PM |
|
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
|
Rockatansky
Senior Member Joined: 30-July-2010 Location: On The Road Status: Offline Points: 6071 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I think both those pics are of 1973 light buckets, and the top one looks kinda messed up?
1972 is a 1-off year 1973 is a 1-off year 1974-76 are the same 1977+ are LTD II with a solid 1 piece front fascia google yahoo or whatever 1975 Torino img's and 1973 Torino img's you'll find wrong years in the mix but mostly correct
Edited by Rockatansky - 19-October-2014 at 3:00PM |
|
72 GT Ute
|
|
californiajohnny
Moderator Group Joined: 05-October-2013 Location: winlock, wa Status: Offline Points: 14609 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
the top one's mine
it's not messed up it's stripped down to the aluminum! but my left side one is cracked , i thought i'd just buy another good one cheap, but not finding any that are straight down like that right now, so i think i'll just have that one welded and use it, but i began thinking what about the grill? i bought a really nice used one a while back, so is it going to fit! well i looked at it and it has a 74 (D4OB) # on it so i should be fine!!
|
|
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
|
Rockatansky
Senior Member Joined: 30-July-2010 Location: On The Road Status: Offline Points: 6071 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
it's just the angle that makes the curved side of the bucket look kinda funny (the top 73)
the 73 grill is decidedly trapezoidal, the difference is more than enough that you'll know visually no problem that's odd that the 1-off year you're finding & the 3 year run you can't the potmetal should braze but watch out for silicon content
|
|
72 GT Ute
|
|
Regul8r
Admin Group Moderator Joined: 26-December-2007 Location: Sarasota FL Status: Offline Points: 6624 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
yup 72 and 73 are one offs each 74-76 are the same
|
|
Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
|
californiajohnny
Moderator Group Joined: 05-October-2013 Location: winlock, wa Status: Offline Points: 14609 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
thanks guys! the copper colored one -- i think it's another case of ebay misidentity ! update he couldn't weld it, it just burned and melted, so i plated it with aluminum pieces and pop rivets, i think it will work fine, i can always get another one later and paint it! joe???
|
|
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
|
72 RS 351
Senior Member Joined: 04-September-2014 Location: Knoxville TN Status: Offline Points: 2767 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Ah, so those are pot metal also? That was the way they formed odd shaped parts back then. That's a crappy material.
|
|
Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
|
Big Bird
Senior Member Joined: 25-August-2013 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 4194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Anything hotter than soldering will melt those parts, and that is sketchy too. The white metal used is usually a ZAMAK 3 alloy with a melting point of about 700F.
repair material for pot metal/white metal. If you try solder, try to find a lead-free solder as the lead will eventually cause zinc rot. It's not as crappy of a metal as you would think, as it casts easily, is reasonably strong, and is machinable. ZAMAK 3 the usual die-casting or spin-casting metal in the US.
Edited by Big Bird - 22-October-2014 at 2:58PM |
|
"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
|
72 RS 351
Senior Member Joined: 04-September-2014 Location: Knoxville TN Status: Offline Points: 2767 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I'm sorry Randy, the only repair I've heard of for that metal was a soldering gun used to braze to it. I don't have any experience with it other than from having the headlight buckets of my old 72 GT cracked from a wreck, and it wouldn't bend back at all. These days everything is a plastic, and repairing that is tricky too.
|
|
Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
|
californiajohnny
Moderator Group Joined: 05-October-2013 Location: winlock, wa Status: Offline Points: 14609 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
the guy that tried to weld it thought it may be pot metal, but i didn't think so looks like too good of material for pot metal, he suggested i try some of the aluminum solder that is sold at the swap meets, i told him that i have some
|
|
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
|
Big Bird
Senior Member Joined: 25-August-2013 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 4194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Problem with this metal is that it goes from solid to liquid with no visible warning QUICKLY, and it is a really fluid metal when it melts... If it's bent, it's done. the metal fatigues when bent/bent back and it splits along the crystalline structure/grains in the metal. Epoxy/J.B. Weld would work on it, but you have to give the metal some "tooth" and have it really clean to get adhesion.
|
|
"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
|
Post Reply | |
Tweet |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |