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Canuck
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Posted: 03-August-2016 at 1:36AM |
My door tag says I have a "U" transmission - a C6. Was the C6 standard on all wagons? I've read elsewhere that the Montego came with a C4, I'm thinking the wagon might have a C6 as standard issue?
Also, does anyone know what the rated towing capacity is of the 72 Montego wagon with a 351 2V and a C6? There's a 78 F-series for sale with a 4 barrel 351C about 5 hours drive from here. Wondering if the montego would tow it home on a trailer.... I'd definitely be putting in a separate tranny cooler if I was going to start towing stuff. |
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dave302
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Some 1972 and 1973 montego station wagons came originally with a C4 transmission. The last year of the C4 transmission in a montego station wagon was 1973. Your car came originally with a C6 transmission.One of the things that would determine the rated towing capacity of your car is the tow hitch that you have installed on it. There were class A, B and C tow hitches installed on the wagons. The class A had the lowest tow weight capacity and the class B had a higher tow weight capacity than the class A tow hitch. The class C tow hitches had the highest tow weight capacity of all three of them.
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dave302
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Is the F series an F150, F250 or F350?
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Canuck
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it's an F150. Pretty sure its not the original motor, the box is done, and one of the frame crossmembers needs work. Still... if the engine is in good shape, I could probably get some $ back once I get the engine out of it.
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Canuck
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sigh. Just googling for the truck, there's also a 78 F600 that looks in mint shape for sale... too many toys i want.
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dave302
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The last year of the 351C 2V and 4V was 1974, so the engine is not original. I would estimate that the F150 weighs approximately 4,580 pounds (if it is a short bed 4X2) to 4,920 pounds (if it is a long bed 4X4). So it might weigh approximately 380 to 600 pounds more than your station wagon.
Approximately how much does the trailer weigh?
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unlovedford
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That would be pushing the limits of your wagon. The frames/wheels/tires/suspension were not meant to have that much weight attached back there pulling and pushing. Can you do it? Probably. Is there a chance it will hurt your car? Probably.
I'd pay someone $200-$300 to tow it, as it may well cause more damage to your wagon than that. |
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sounds like if I'm going to tow it myself, I should buy that F600 first. :-)
Of course this is also considering I have to see it before I even decide to buy it. that's a whole other issue. |
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californiajohnny
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i agree with joe! i pull a lot of crap with my old 1/2 ton chevy p/u (more than i should) and it's better suited for towing than a wagon...
hmm.. an old saying comes to mind ... "do as i say, NOT as i do" |
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My '73 wagon is an original 302/C4 car that was used to tow...the trans blew up 6 years in at 35,000 miles.
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I'd verify that it's really what the seller thinks / says it is, as mentioned 351C never came in a truck in North America, and a lot of people get confused as the valve cover stickers say Engine Family : Cleveland
the 351M & 400 look it could be a 351M with a 4bbl manifold on the stock 2V heads
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Canuck
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It's a 5 hour drive to go check it out - which I might do on a weekend sometime! or, if i can find a car-enabled person in the area to look at it that could work too. Given where it is that's not all that likely. :-(
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You can use the sliding tab at the bottom of the picture to slide the picture to the right side.
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some stuff I just read on Wikipedia about the 72 Gran Torino wagon - which presumably holds true for the Montego I'd assume:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Torino#1972 Torino wagons were often used to tow, but all Torino models could be equipped with one of two optional towing packages. A medium-duty trailer package for Class II towing allowed towing up to 3,500 lb (1,600 kg). This package included heavy-duty suspension, the extra-cooling package, trailer towing identification sticker and wiring harness. This option group required the 351-2V or larger engine. A heavy-duty Class III package included heavy-duty suspension, heavy-duty frame (standard on wagons), extra cooling package, heavy-duty battery and alternator, along with a 3.25:1 axle and trailer wiring. This package allowed the Torino to tow up to 6,000 lb (2,700 kg) and required the 400-2V or larger engine and G78-14 or larger tires. Both towing packages listed an automatic transmission, power steering and brakes as mandatory options. |
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This is a sick Picture!!!!!
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