72 GTS Cobra Jet Clone??

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   I still have the original factory 429 block in my 72 GTS. I bought the chrome "Cobra Jet" letters usually found on Mustang Shakers at a car show and I put them on each side of my GTS hood scoop. I have to say they look like they belong on this car.
I've added many Cobra Jet parts and performance parts that exceed the specs of the factory CJ & SCJ engines. How many CJ parts do I have to add to truly earn the right to call my car a Cobra Jet? 

Edited by TorinoMan - 03-September-2017 at 5:23PM

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TorinoMan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-August-2017 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote TorinoMan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 72 GTS Cobra Jet Clone?? Posted: 03-September-2017 at 5:14PM
	I still have the original factory 429 block in my 72 GTS. I bought the chrome "Cobra Jet" letters usually found on Mustang Shakers at a car show and I put them on each side of my GTS hood scoop. I have to say they look like they belong on this car. I've added many Cobra Jet parts and performance parts that exceed the specs of the factory CJ & SCJ engines. How many CJ parts do I have to add to truly earn the right to call my car a Cobra Jet? Edited by TorinoMan - 03-September-2017 at 5:23PM

Power Surge Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06-March-2016 Location: Palm Coast, FL Status: Offline Points: 542	Post Options Post Reply Quote Power Surge Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03-September-2017 at 5:51PM
	Well if you've got a 429, then you're not "cloning" anything, since that year didn't come with a 429 CJ. You could legitimately put some Cobra Jet badges on if you've got a Cobra Jet of any kind under the hood. Since the main thing that made a CJ a CJ was the heads, I would say if you've got 429 CJ or SCJ heads on your stock 429, then you can call it a Cobra Jet. Otherwise, it ain't no Cobra Jet. Just my 2 cents.
	Sal Mennella 73 GTS 351 CJ 75 Cougar XR7 73 Ranchero - 5.0 Coyote swap - in progress Past Torinos - 72 Gran Torino, 75 Gran Torino, 75 Elite

Rockatansky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30-July-2010 Location: On The Road Status: Offline Points: 6072	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockatansky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04-September-2017 at 3:11AM
	on the other hand many say 'never say never' with Ford, why not a 1972 429CJ ? wiki says 370hp=CJ and 375hp=SCJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_385_engine so vin code C=CJ and J=SCJ http://www.ranchero.us/forum/index.php?threads/vin-decoder.4225/ 370hp CJ came with a Ford Rochester carb, good luck finding that and the original intake carb intake cam & headers can be excused over this amount of time, back in the day lots of owners pitched the original parts to the bin, today they're worth gold why not a 1972 C code? it'd sure be rare because Ford discontinued factory installed Ram Air on the 351's mid-production, what did they do to the 429's?
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TorinoMan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-August-2017 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote TorinoMan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04-September-2017 at 9:04AM
	Thanks for your 2 cents. Thinking on the same line, I swapped the old smog 429 4V cast iron heads for the Aluminum CJ heads from Ford Motorsport SVO. The first thing you see when the hood is lifted up is the words "Cobra Jet" on the front face of each head. So the only engine parts from Ford is the block, truck 460 rods , crank & CJ Alum. heads. My block is a Thunder Jet series casting, so I think the word "JET" is legit. I studied the performance of every factory part offered in a 429CJ car, and from there I chose parts that offered substantially higher HP numbers from the aftermarket companies. A 351CJ 72 GTS on a good day might get into the 14's in the 1/4 mile. My CJ combination does mid 11's, so does that earn me the right to use the word "Cobra Jet" on my hood? Edited by TorinoMan - 04-September-2017 at 9:31AM

Power Surge Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06-March-2016 Location: Palm Coast, FL Status: Offline Points: 542	Post Options Post Reply Quote Power Surge Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04-September-2017 at 9:21AM
	Damn, those are some old heads for sure....definitely a collector item :)
	Sal Mennella 73 GTS 351 CJ 75 Cougar XR7 73 Ranchero - 5.0 Coyote swap - in progress Past Torinos - 72 Gran Torino, 75 Gran Torino, 75 Elite

californiajohnny Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 05-October-2013 Location: winlock, wa Status: Offline Points: 14609	Post Options Post Reply Quote californiajohnny Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04-September-2017 at 11:02AM
	i wouldn't worry about it! there was some discussion a while back on a facebook page about clones...and how it's wrong...ETC. it's your car do what you want to it!! the only time it's wrong to pass off a clone is if you're selling it and trying to claim it's something special and original, and trying to get big$$$ for something that isn't!
	JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION

MrSmog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21-January-2016 Location: Ky Status: Offline Points: 1407	Post Options Post Reply Quote MrSmog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-September-2017 at 2:34PM
	I'd love to see a factory 429 police interceptor in a 72 and then the later 73/74 460 police interceptors, basically they are jr cobra jet big blocks. Bump the compression a bit and the 460 PI would probably outrun the 429 cj's and scj's

TorinoMan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-August-2017 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote TorinoMan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06-September-2017 at 12:43PM
	There was only enough meet in my 72 429 block walls to go 0.060" overbore which I did. I swapped the 429 crank for a 460 crank with 460 truck rods to max out to 472 cu. in. I've been fighting the urge to bump up the compression from 8:1 because I love the fact that my engine is pushing over 500hp using only 87 octane pump gas. The new cams from Comp Cams are designed with lower octane in mind. I installed their 294S-10 solid lifter (Part# 34-342-4) and I never imagined that it would add almost 75 HP over the 280H I was running. Best $200 I ever spent. Edited by TorinoMan - 06-September-2017 at 12:45PM