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74GranTorino4dr
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Posted: 26-January-2020 at 12:47PM |
Hey guys as with these labors of love theres always something else. I noticed a pretty strong leak from the steering box and its coming from i guess the output seal. The box is leaking on the bottom. The poor mans approach had me adding powersteering fluid until it got milky. The other day it was cold enough the moisture froze within the power steering pump preventing it from spinning. I went to start it today seeing as it was in the 40s and the pump started turning again. I know its milky from air and water may or may not have been why the pump locked up. But above 32 outside it was spinning just fine. I believe a seal to be bad on the box. Ive looked around and am considering just doing a manual steering gear. I dont need to parallel park so not to worried. With that being said on a 74 what steering gear bolts in there? Will the mounts be the same manual vs ps? And what boxes have worked for you all? Im not opposed to the rebuild kit its simply id rather replace the whole unit. Id free up space under the hood too giving up the pump and my ac components with the manual box. Just trying to find an easy solution to it all im sure none of us have deeeeep pockets. Dave.
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californiajohnny
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i think some were available with manual streeing, IIRC joe's red wagon is manual i'd assume they mount the same? you may need the intermediate shaft to go with the manual box?
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JOHN
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72FordGTS
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Yes, they made these cars with manual steering. You can still get the manual boxes, Lares 8922 is a manual box. It will swap in place of a power box. You can also just buy another power steering box. Rock Auto lists that manual box as well as a number of power boxes.
Here is a thread where a member put a manual box in his car from Cancraft. |
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Vince
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74GranTorino4dr
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Update! So I found a soild steering box off of a 1969 ltd and have since switched the pitman arms. The original pitman arm has a grease fitting which I chose to keep. The ltd arm didnt have one. That being said the pitman arm was on my torino before. Now im all the way through the reassembly and ive run into a new problem. It seems like the pitman arm wont seat properly. Everythings kosher where it needs to be but the castle nut wont go far enough down to accomodate the cotter pin. Ive used a pry bar to attempt to get some more shaft for the nut but it wont give anymore. It feels like the castle nut won't go any further. I know id feel real good with the pin in there. How can i get that castle nut on more? Like i said this is the arm that was on the car before. There was no cotter pin there in the disassembly.
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74GranTorino4dr
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Would the castle nut back itself off and would i risk the pitman arm coming out? I spoke to a technition and he said that they dont always have cotter pins, the tapered part isnt supposed to seat inside the drag link and because the spindle points upward its unlikely itll just all come apart. Thoughts? Is that a load of bs ?
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72FordGTS
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Which part of the pitman arms is not seating? I am assuming you mean the arm into the center link? You definitely want a castle nut and cotter pin there. If all other parts except the steering box are the same, I'd suspect the new box is the problem. It may not be allowing the pitman arm to seat properly.
Is this new box a manual steering box? It may require a different pitman arm. You'd have to check the parts catalog.
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Vince
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unlovedford
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Sounds like the diameter is incorrect. I ran into that on my gold car when I swapped to a 1978 setup with a Lares 841 fast ratio box. Yes, my red wagon did have a manual box and it was painfully slow (like 6 turns lock to lock).
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Joe
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handsofstone
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Maybe get a new pitman arm for the original vehicle it was installed in? I wohldn't screw around and jeapordize your life over a $15 part. Rock Auto probably has one with zerk fitting. I am assuming you replaced the seals already.
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aquartlow
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My quick ratio Saginaw is 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 turns lock to lock and once used to it I thought I wouldn't mind a 2 turn L2L steering gear, I couldn't even image driving with 6 turns L2L, be getting calluses just parking the damn thing .
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californiajohnny
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normally if it has a zerk it's been replaced but most 60's cars had them. check the diameter of the taper, thickness of the piece the taper goes into, distance from the taper to the threads and cotter pin hole, sounds like something if slightly different! how close is the cotter pin from going into the nut? if the taper is tight normally it's hard to remove but i wouldn't trust it without a cotter pin!!!
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JOHN
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unlovedford
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Todd, to make matters worse, it had that thin plastic base Torino wheel. Was better when I installed the Sport wheel, but then I installed a PS box without the pump for a few trips. Faster ratio, but man, it was tough to steer at low speeds with 8 inch rims up front and 55 series tires, lol.
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Joe
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EvilScientistMoose
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Did you resolve this problem with the correct pitman arm? |
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