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Regul8r
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Posted: 03-December-2010 at 7:53AM |
great place to post pics of your Tranny and Power Steering coolers.
I originally wrote in Ilyes and PSquares threads about routing of the lines...
That a cooler needs to be put inline AFTER the stock Radiator cooler.
this will essentially lower the temp of the fluid even further that the 180-220 degree radiator coolant will.
running the cooler BEFORE the radiator will give zero benefit (ON A HOT DAY!) as the coolr probably will not lower the temp considerably and THEN the Radiator will ONLY cool or might even re-heat the fluid to the 180-220 degree range.
You want the EXTRA/ADDITIONAL cooler to cool the fluid even MORE that the stock radiator can!
The additional cooler will add further chill to that 180-220 coming out of the radiator in the fresh air before it goes back to the tranny.
Run it cooler to rad like you have it and it will ONLY be 180-220, ZERO BENEFIT.
The radiator cooler will make it the 180-220 AFTER the other cooler lowers it below that in the fresh air.
Illustration of what I mean (temps are exaggerated to show what I mean)...
Out of Tranny to radiator (cooled to Coolant temp) to cooler(fresh air cooled further) back in to tranny
Temps.... 400 190 150(estimate) COOL fluid into tranny
Out of Tranny to cooler(fresh air cooled) to radiator (cooled or heated to Coolant temp) back in to tranny
Temps.... 400 150(probably will not cool it this far in that small of time) cooled or heated to 180/220
No benefit, fluid still runs the 180-220 the original cooler was getting it to.
I hope that made sense!?
Let's see your set ups and what cooler/lines you used. |
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Psquare75
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Normally I'd agree with you, but in my case. I've got mine trans >> cooler >> radiator >> trans.
Not sure if you saw my overheating posts, but my cooling system was pretty marginal as it was before.. The trans cooler before made a difference in engine temp, rather than after. As for power steering..... It's wider than the radiator. I think it's a hydraulic fluid cooler from an 18 wheeler. It works. One longgggggg loop. I was popping lines due to heat w/o it.
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Paul
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ilyes
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Psquare75
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Been to MA ever? ;).
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Paul
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ilyes
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nope, but if it's freezing, i pass
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Rockatansky
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i subscribe to the cooler first then radiator school of thought. as Psquare points out, the bulk of the temp is thrown off by the cooler, then the fluid goes through the radiator possibly even removing temp from the engine coolant but leaving the radiator at NORMAL OPERATING TEMP... no harm done
i used the A/C condenser for my cooooler
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ilyes
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depends what kind of driving/stall you're running, as well the place where you live. Getting a cooler first will cool down, but then, when it goes to the radiator, it's gonna warm up again, so there's not really a point for the cooler, except few exceptions
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Rockatansky
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if the trans fluid warms up when it goes into the radiator, it is removing heat from the engine, so the trans cooler is cooling both the engine and the trans
and the trans fluid stays at Normal Operating Temperature all year round
can you give an example of one of these times when it works better the other way? Edited by Rockatansky - 03-December-2010 at 3:23PM |
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ilyes
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well, let say you're running a high stall, and doing city driving, you will be 95% of the time under the stall, that ain't really bad, but it's summer, 90* outside. So, fluid come really really hot from the tranny, kind of cool down while in the radiator, but not a lot, it's summer remember, and city driving doesn't feed the radiator quite right. If you're not running an extra cooler after the radiator, you're fluid will just become hotter, and hotter, and hotter
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