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    Posted: 24-June-2006 at 7:02PM
hi its me again every time i think i have this licked something else pops up
      now my problem is lack of fire when i turn the key or use my remote starter i don't get any spark until i release it then i usually will get a spark as the engine stops spinning any suggestions   thanks  conardDeadDeadDeadDeadConfusedConfusedConfused
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The Red-Blue Stripe wire is connected to the"S" terminal of the Starter Relay. The "I" terminal provides 12 volts only while you are turning the key to start the engine.
The "I" terminal usually connected to the Ignition Coil. If you have an Auto Transmission, its possible your Neutral Safety Switch which is in series on the Red-Blue wire could be defective and may cause your starting problems. I replaced mine with a B&M NSS which was on the ratchet shifter and it works perfect. Any curcuit that has to have 12 volts going to it while the engine is starting should be connected to the "I" terminal on the Starter Relay also. The "I" terminal does not provide 12 volts after the engine has started, if you have a curcuit connected to it that needs a constant 12 volt feed it will provide a short burst of power and then shut off.         
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here is the update while cranking the engine over if i release some of the pressure the engine will fire and start  it kind of acts as an anti theft device but i still want to make it right   conard
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   I had that that problem with my Duraspark and it was the stator in the distributor. It would fire just as you were releasing the pressure on the ignition switch.
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thanks is this an easy repair  conard
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hey i finally installed the ignition switch i was told that all you had to do was to unbolt the steering column and you could reach it  good luck i couldn't i had to pull the dash pad and the defroster and get it from the top but once you do that it is an easy job and it solved my problem  thanks once again   conard
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I usually pull the gauge cluster to reach the ignition switch.
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actually that was my firse choice but i did not know how to disconnect the speedo cable if you could send along that info i would appricate it  thanks  conard
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Ah! That helps.. It's not a 'screw on' type, but a 'clip' type. If you still have the dash pad off, look at the cable, and you'll see a white clip at the end of the cable. Basically, push it to one side, and slide the cable off. They can be a PITA if they haven't been moved in awhile/at all ever.
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THANKS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE I'M STILL AT THE DRAWLING BOARD IT STARTED AND RAN FINE LAST NIGHT BUT TO DAY IT IS DOING THE SAME THING I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE NUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH NEXT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS THEY WOULD BE APPRICATED   CONARD
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AN UPDATE I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE ENGINE WILL CRANK NO MATTER WHAT GEAR THE TRANS IS IN
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Bad neutral switch shouldn't crank in any position only park & neutral.  Gary
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  hi my ignition box came in and it fixed my problem went for a 40 mi ride just to get an ice cream good time one further question i remover the vapor canister and blocked off the hose comming from the gas tank is this correct  thanks  conard
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I would think that you should leave that line open to atmosphere .
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