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    Posted: 14-September-2013 at 5:28PM
Is there a decent gasless mig welder that would work for welding in floor pans? I don't really want to mess with gas if gasless would work .
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FC (flux core) will work but it's not pretty, spatters like all get-out and is hard to run 'on the low end' because the arc is so wild. you want to run more stick-out than you usually do with gas, it's a little weird because there's no gas nozzle, no gas shield to worry about... the gas is produced right at the puddle if you can call it that. FC is preferred over MIG outdoors because there's no gas shield to get blown away by a slight breeze, but a decent little breeze will still mess you up with FC, it's not bullet proof 
 
i'd grab the cheapest Harbor Freight deal you can swing with the 20% coupon, if the machine works, it works. it'll weld
 
are you going to butt weld the pans in, or use a lap joint? stitch it in solid or tack & seal?
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I bought the HF welder for the same reason - floor pans.  I could not stop burning holes.  I took it back and bought the Eastwood.
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Eastwood MIG or FC ?
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I bought the Mig 135 and could not be happier. Went to HF and bought their cart and helmet.  Gas is easy to get and seems to last a long time for me (I did forget to turn off the bottle after using it and over a week the gas leaked out).  

FC is just a tough way to weld anything not industrial. 
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i'm leaning towards a HF MIG for about the same maybe a little more than it would cost to upgrade my Lincoln FC to MIG... especially for welding my fenders back together
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IMO, don't buy a cheap welder, you'll regret it every time you "attempt" use it. My father found this out when he purchased his MIG welder, he bought a Clarke mig welder. What a POS that thing was, compared to my Hobart Handler 140. He "attempted" to use the Clarke MIG when replacing his '57 Olds Super 88's floor pans(solid wire and mixed gas), about 10 spot welds later he only used my Hobart to finish them and sold the Clarke for peanuts. I know my Hobart isn't top of the line but works great for me, it's 5 years old and I use it at least once a week without any issues with it(only replaced the MIG wire/flux core and refilled the mixed gas bottle). Good luck with whatever you purchase.
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Yeah go to Harbo freight and get you a deal there.I'm using pretty much the same thing for my floor pans
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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

i'm leaning towards a HF MIG for about the same maybe a little more than it would cost to upgrade my Lincoln FC to MIG... especially for welding my fenders back together

Why wouldn't you just upgrade your Lincoln to MIG, especially if its cheaper to do?  The HF is really cheap and has little control.  
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I bought a Lincoln electric mig welder FC and I LOVE it!!!  did all my welding on stacy lynn with it.  rear quarters, (including all the rusted out supports and inner fender well fabrications) and all my rust repair..  check out my progress thread for everything I did with it if you want...
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Originally posted by robot9000 robot9000 wrote:

Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

i'm leaning towards a HF MIG for about the same maybe a little more than it would cost to upgrade my Lincoln FC to MIG... especially for welding my fenders back together

Why wouldn't you just upgrade your Lincoln to MIG, especially if its cheaper to do?  The HF is really cheap and has little control.  
 
I think you just talked me into it. I thought I had a problem with the spool holder screw-majig but after looking at it closer it may just be that the spool I have on there is slightly wider than some? I do like the Lincoln in general, especially that it only draws 15 amps where all others I've seen pull 20. I recently grabbed an adapter to allow the big spool, 8-10 lbs? and that adapter fits on fine, screw-majig snugs down all the way & has the right amount of resistance. just the darn 2lb spool that's on there now is too wide so the wave spring that causes drag is max'd flat & the spool won't turn... so I found a shim that lets it roll just right. gotta be a funky cheap crap Pinch spool
 
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I also bought the Eastwood 135 and it works great. I use it gasless for the moment and it splatters a bit. Kinda tricky on the low setting but for the price, you can't go wrong. I would thing a Hobart 140 or Miller should be a bit nicer, but as always, skills prevails.
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I use co2 gas with my mig, works great with sheet metal. Not no good for aluminum or stainless steel. The welder is 150 amp Esab.
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i bought a harbor freight flux core wire feed welder when they first  came out, POS, welded real erratic (found out later it had a missing gear tooth in the plastic feed) nothing against harbor freight, but sometimes you get what you pay for. i test drove a hobart it was ok, then a lincoln, bought the lincoln model sp100,with 75%argon/25% co2 mixed gas, love it! i've had it for over 15 years, never a problem! i also still have my dad's old lincoln ac180 arc welder (made in 1959) that i learned to weld with when i was 10 (i'm now 48) used both on a project last weekend  still working perfect!!!
 also , i would recommend a model that has rheostat type switches for both the amperage and the wire speed settings so you can fine tune it for what you are welding, the ones that have only 4 switched positions for the amperage makes it hard to control the heat (not good penitration or next setting is too hot and blows holes through) oh and i use the smaller wire .023 for body sheetmetal 
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The Eastwood MIG welder has fully adjustable current and wire speed.  Works well for me,
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