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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-November-2017 at 10:46AM
HaHa i'll use pop's old Black & Decker with the brushes blowing flames out the sides LOL
 
i figure using a hub-centric wheel and a transfer punch one at a time will locate them as good as anything,
tired of paying people (local) to screw it up for me
 
and it's an excuse to get the drill press up & running, i'll probably drill the discs too 
 
sometimes ya gotta pee with the Censored ya got Shocked
 
come to think of it this guy's just a yodel or 2 north of you in BC, check him out!
 
 
 
 
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After poking around on the interwebs at galaxie swaps, it seems that the 71-72 fullsize rotor will install on the small bearing 72 spindle, but the rotor face is almost 3/8" further outboard.
Later 72-79 intermediate, 73-78 fullsize "partsbin" setup pushes the rotor further inboard on the hub to allow caliper clearance on the small rotor and 14" wheels.
Nobody local has rotors for 72 Thunderbird/Mark IV, pretty much an obsolete part. I doubt Ford/Lincoln made 50,000 Tbirds/Marks in 72 combined, so probably minimal demand for rotors at this time.
Another scary thought, Granada rotors apparently fit the small bearing spindles but also misalign the rotor surface. Small 11" rotor though.
The above post should be read in a "Grumpy Old Man" voice.
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Kanter lists the 72 Tbird/Mk IV rotors on this page
https://www.kanter.com/productdetail.aspx?DeptNo=1100&MakeName=Ford&MakeYear=1972&CategoryID=6&ProductCode=35&Router=Catalog
You have to scroll down a fair bit.
I'm hoping this listing is for real, or else my plans for the 12 inch brake swap will have to make a major change.
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Originally posted by 72LincolnAbe 72LincolnAbe wrote:

It's almost as if the surface part of the rotor (where the pads contact) needs to be moved in about a quarter of an inch.
Originally posted by Big Bird Big Bird wrote:

After poking around on the interwebs at galaxie swaps, it seems that the 71-72 fullsize rotor will install on the small bearing 72 spindle, but the rotor face is almost 3/8" further outboard.
 
Based on what the OP is saying and what Randy is saying, it sounds like the one side of the car may have a 71-72 Fullsize Rotor. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 72LincolnAbe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2017 at 1:03AM
Well, when we got the car back, it had a completely wrong one on the left front, the bolt pattern was correct, but had to find a junk newer wheel and tire to fit over the hub. No idea what that was from


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Wow! Lots of responses! Thanks so much! What Big Bird said is absolutely what the problem is, and I believe the 6014 rotors are what we were sold, the full size stuff for later cars. I'm curious if any of you have a used one for sale? I still have one that can be cut, lots of meat on it. I'm kinda getting tired of beating my head on the desk trying to find a good one. I'm paypal ready if someone has one with life left in it!
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there is a place in florida that sells used parts lincoln only i don't recall the name. i ran across them searching for mark 4 disc brakes on the internet
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

there is a place in florida that sells used parts lincoln only i don't recall the name. i ran across them searching for mark 4 disc brakes on the internet


If you come across it again, let me know!
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Lincoln land Clearwater fl.
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I did see them before, seemed a little pricey... :/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2017 at 7:28AM
like i said Frank thinks he has a pair, i didn't get to what he wants for them because used rotors across the continent  ... IDK ...
 
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between the asking price & consumer shipping i'll bet you can get a new one for not much more
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Originally posted by Rockatansky Rockatansky wrote:

like i said Frank thinks he has a pair, i didn't get to what he wants for them because used rotors across the continent  ... IDK ...
 
Mark IV Designs
18253 N. 42nd Place
Phoenix, Arizona 85032
602-992-6699
 
between the asking price & consumer shipping i'll bet you can get a new one for not much more


I sure wish I could get my hands on a new one! That right there is my biggest problem Unhappy
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Originally posted by qcode72 qcode72 wrote:

Lincoln land Clearwater fl.
that's it!
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Ok, I called Lincoln land, they are going to call me back, so fingers crossed. That Kanter place showed one online, but when I called to check availability, the price about doubled for some reason.....
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There is a car like yours for sale with no engine for $650.00. The seller needs to get it off his property as soon as possible. I will take a guess and say that if he cannot sell the car soon it is probably going to go to a scrap yard. Maybe you can call him and ask him about the condition of the front rotors and then purchase the rotor from him or the scrap yard. Some scrap yards will sell the rotor for only $20.00 or $30.00. I do not know the seller and I did not talk to him.
 


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Thanks! I did get a rotor coming from a place in Cleveland, it was a bit rusty, but my guy thinks it's salvageable. I'd have loved to grab a parts car, but being in Michigan, would have cost an arm and leg to get it here
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So! An update of sorts....   The rotor I got did clean up well enough to use, still way over spec on thickness, and worked like a charm. But! Always a but, right? The rotor we thought was right for the car, sadly, is not. It's far closer than the wrong pair I had, but the dust cap that was on it was rotten, and now we are having trouble finding one to properly fit. We got a cap that was a hair to small, welded a small bead around it, and ground it down to fit tight, so I think we're ok there. Grease seal on the back seems to be a little tight on the spindle shaft, but if noting else, it'll wear itself down to close enough.

I really thank you all for the help, and with maybe just a little luck, I can find one more rotor.

On a side note, I don't think I've ever ran across such a situation that so many rotors would "fit" but not be right. I know GM was a little forgiving on swap and cross vehicle swap, but they had issues too.

Time to find another rotor.... Thumbs Up
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Easy answer would be to swap to a 74-79 spindle and get a fullsize73-78 rotor drilled to the correct pattern. Probably cheaper and yield a better result that tracking down a user, very limited production rotor, having it turned.
If I were in the same spot, I might consider getting newer spindles/rotors, a 73-76 drum brake rear, and the wheels that go along with them. If you are running hubcaps, it's an invisible swap.
As far as G.M. goes, try finding rotors for a 78 Malibu or Monte Carlo or any of the other 78 A bodies. Another "one year only" special.
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Agree there! I have an 86 Cutlass and I hear stories about them 78 cars alot!
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