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    Posted: 04-January-2010 at 4:51PM
Taken from Ranchero.us with permission of 72GTVA

Attached are some diagrams for Body Mounts: If we find a source for bushings correctly sized we'll post that information too:





Note: Sometime between '73 and '75 the #4 body mount was eliminated and, the #5 mount on the 77-79 models is not a bolt in unit like the 72-76 models. The frame does not have an access for the hardware. They use a press in type rubber mount that sits on the frame and the body just lays on that (no hardware).





If you have any updated measurements or information send me a note and we'll include it with this Reference Note.


Edited by Psquare75 - 05-January-2010 at 4:38AM
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2010 at 7:14AM
Energy Suspension has a universal Body Mount that I used on my '76. Look under universal products.  I am going off memory but i believe the number is 9.4102.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-March-2010 at 4:10PM
Hey, just a little tidbit I wanted to also pass along.
Late model crown vic body mounts are identical to the original Torino units.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-March-2010 at 4:18PM
tell me more Andy!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-March-2010 at 4:43PM
While I was out at the yard pulling the tbird/CV seats and wandering around, there was a police cruiser I want to say 2000-2002 in the yard, and it was missing a 1/4. Went over and the body bushings were easy enough to get at, and the thing looked about identical to the Torino.
Pulling it out of the frame, they have the same little bump that my originals had, for alignment in the frame.
I didn't see the lower body bushing, but it's something worth taking a look at.
 
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For those who missed this post.......
 
 
 
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I didn't know which post to post this to, so I'm pasteing to all that apply. Wink
 
"Originally posted by rab1969

AFTER MORE RESEARCH AND A $20.00 CHANCE I HAVE FOUND THAT 2008 FORD CROWN VICTORIA BODY MOUNTS AND RADIATOR SUPPORT MOUNTS ARE THE EXACT SAME MOUNTS. I JACKED THE BODY UP AND REMOVED AN OLD MOUNT AND REPLACED IT WITH THE NEW ONE AND LOWERD THE BODY BACK DOWN . AND IT WAS A PERFECT MATCH. WITH NO MODIFACTIONS WHAT SO EVER ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REPLACE THE BOLT THAT COMES WITH THE MOUNTS WITH THE ORGINAL ONE OR REPLACE THE BOLT WITH A NEW ONE. THE PART NO. ARE (UPPER MOUNT)6W1Z-5400396-A AND (LOWER) 6W1Z-5C155-AA. YOU CAN ORDER THESE PARTS WHOLESALE THRU BOB UTTER FORD OUT OF TEXAS. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT."
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I just purchased 1 of these mounts to see if in fact it would work. Here's what I came up with. Keep in mind my body is on a rotisserie and my frame is on a cart on it's side so it made it pretty easy to check every mounting area out.
 
Upper mount - only difference is it's about 1/8"-1/4" taller [not too big of a deal] Other than that it's a perfect fit. (10 mounts)
Lower mount - The size is perfect, but where it contacts the frame it's cone shaped as if it would wedge into a hole. (not flat like original) Not too sure if this is a problem. Also, when tight, I can turn the mount in the frame by hand. But it is pretty snug, just not very tight.
Bolt - I do not recommend re-using the original bolt. It won't be long enough. Need new bolts.
Radiator core support - These mounts will not work for this. I haven't figured out yet what will work. I'm still working on this.
 
As a side note; there are other size mounts on this car along with some sort of rad core support mount. I will check out.
 
These mounts are for 2003 - 2009 Ford Crown Victoria's with a 2006 part number.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-March-2010 at 10:48AM
NOW... I am confuzzled!
 
Are they in fact the same or are they in fact different but will work?
 
IF they are not identical and will work... what will the difference do?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-March-2010 at 1:03PM
Originally posted by cowboyupdjcarl cowboyupdjcarl wrote:

NOW... I am confuzzled!
 
Are they in fact the same or are they in fact different but will work?
 
IF they are not identical and will work... what will the difference do?
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-March-2010 at 4:01AM
OK I'll try it again,
 
These CV mounts are about as close as you will come without modifying. The differences are minor and I don't consider to be too big a deal. You just need new bolts and the radiator core support mounts. I am going to use a combination of old core support mounts and new. New consisting of possibly 73 truck core support mounts I bought and the universal mounts I bought from Energy Suspensions. This should work fine. I should be able to get it done without too many problems.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-March-2010 at 8:32AM
Where do you get new bolts?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-March-2010 at 12:20PM
Originally posted by rrlcommish rrlcommish wrote:

Where do you get new bolts?

You need a bolt that's a little longer. I'm going to measure the 
old bolts and mount and figure against the new mount and order
them online. They are 8 grade and can be bought online easily.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-March-2010 at 5:34PM
Keep in mind, the OEM bolts have a taper. Which may mean you will need to grind the tip to aid in putting the bolt in.
I had a parts car with mint isolators that I used. I tried using new bolts identical in size, however due to them not being tapered, they were a PITA to try to use, so I dug through my collection of bolts cleaned the threads up, and reused what I had.
I still have a couple boxes of Torino mounts.

Concerning the radiator support mounts, I have posted what I used 3 or 4 times.
Ford LTD bushings, they were available for pretty reasonable from ford.
What I used was Ford bushings meant for an LTD, I forget the year.
My parts receipt shows:
E2AZ*5400155*A ABSORBER
List $7.75, net cost each was $6.43 each back in 2002.
 
Damn, that's depressing...2002 is when I got them, and I still aint done almost 7 years later.Confused
 
Anyways:
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-March-2010 at 3:10AM
Andy,
Is that a 2pc mount? Do you buy 2 or 4?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-March-2010 at 2:47PM
I bought 4 of them. I also bought a couple plated body washers {shown in the picture with the red prybar} inserted into the top.
Pretty much identical in size to originals, plus they are not rubber.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-March-2010 at 4:39PM
What did you use inside the frame?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-March-2010 at 5:27PM
Stern Smile you know what, I honestly am drawing a blank.
I will try to take a peak tomorrow and see. I thought I only bought 4, but maybe thinking now I got 6.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-April-2010 at 2:24AM

I measured my bolts and they are 2 1/2" long, 1 1/2" thread, 7/16" coarse thread and 5/8" hex head.  Anyone know how much longer of a bolt is needed?  And where did you order the new bolts from?

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Anyone actually USE ANYTHING from this sticky yet? 
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  Yes !!  I got quite alot from this thread. I may not be offering any records in rebuilding but I am moving fwd. I recently bought a 1971 429 thunder jet engine with the ( dove-c )  heads to build my 514 stroker from.
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