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I have a problem with my dash lights and gauge lights, completely dead.   They used to work until I had the headliner replaced.  The installer shorted something out and blew out 2-3 fuses.   

I have since replaced fuses and replaced the headlight switch, thinking that the rherostat might have been blown.   Gauges work but the Instrument lights and the lights that shine over the knobs do not come on.   

Are there any other fuses or something I'm missing...

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Originally posted by BackInBlack BackInBlack wrote:


Are there any other fuses or something I'm missing...

Thanks,
John
 
Brake lights working?
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Yup...brake lights, blinkers...etc everything else working.  Gear shift and interior floor and headliner lights work.

Just the dash lights.  No voltage to the dash bulbs.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote torkair Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-May-2011 at 2:03PM
I'm wiring a 74 GT cluster into a 73 Sports roof car and need to know which wires need to be connected to each other for it to all work correctly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psquare75 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2011 at 1:42AM
That's what this INFO thread is for. You are better off getting a '74 cluster. 

Worse case, Everything is there that you need to wire it from scratch if necessary. 


Edited by Psquare75 - 08-May-2011 at 1:42AM
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I had the same issue this weekend, I forgot to change the fuse.
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Anyone do anything besides putting in LEDs to brighten the cluster lighting?
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Washing the interior of the cluster case helped a little.
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I wonder if you spray the inside with chrome paint if it would help.
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I restored the cluster except for having any silkscreen work done.

Careful cleaning with damp clothes, very low pressure on the air hose, and careful use of a swiffer duster.    I used Plastic headlamp polish on the gauge lens.   Carefully repainted the gauge needles with the correct fluorescent orange paint.   the only problem I had is the trip meter numbers blew off while blowing out the dust.  My car is from the desert and it is hell on interiors.   

All-in-all turned out nice.   

I just finished my interior.  Looks almost new now.   I'll post some pics on my car link soon.

Oh BTW I replaced all the bulbs in the dash and interior with LED bulbs.   Looks great.   Stock colors so it all looks original.    The best thing I like about the LED bulbs is the reduction of the heat and the fact that if I leave a dome light on it doesn't drain the battery, leaving me with a dead battery.




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I had done the swap to Blue LEDs on my cluster, removing the diffuser caps, but I had fought tooth and nail with my turn signal lights of all things.
I ended up keeping the 194 bulbs in the turn signal sockets.
Otherwise, no issues.
I took my cluster comletely apart, used a old toothbrush, and dish soap.
I had to clean my dash out before powertour, amazing how much body dust had settled in the dash that made things a mess. And keep in mind, my GTS was painted 2+ years ago.
 
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Originally posted by 76 cougar 76 cougar wrote:

I wonder if you spray the inside with chrome paint if it would help.


That's what the 73-87 Chevy truck guys do. It works well if you tape everything right.

http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/interior/dashlights.htm

This is on my to-do list but I'll be sourcing a better, non-crumbling, non-flaking, uncracked cluster to do it with. That and figure out why my lights don't work to begin with, which will be SO much easier in a garage.
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I blew out the whole gauge pack, cleaned every connection, blew out the cluster with air and careful cleaning with a microfiber cloth, selected best gauges... and the lighting is...meh.  Think I will replace with LEDs and be done with it.
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Chris-
Night and day difference.
 
 
Makes a big difference early AM and also dusk.
 
I've had a fair amount of guys asking me locally, and any car/truck can benefit from an LED swap in the cluster.
For me, not that I would consider it a safety issue, but I sure like being able to see my cluster.
 
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Regarding the light intensity of the dash lights in the previous post...

I also found that I had to replace the headlight switch.  The old reostat (variable resistor) in the switch was loosing over 3Volts to the dash lights.   I replaced the switched and only dropped about 0.3Volts.

I bought my LED dash kit from http://www.hipoparts.com/   They sell a complete kit with very nice instructions.   You can probably save $20 but you have to buy loose packs and will have extra left over.  I also bought the needle paint from them for about $2.50 (if my memory serves me.)  It was great talking to the guys there (i think his name was Bill).  He is a Ford guy and a cleveland engine fan.   I talked to him about cleveland engine builds for over 1.5 hours.   

I dont regret spending the little extra money.   The instructions were very helpful and well thought out.   I would buy from them again in a heart beat.   The kits came with all the error lamps, turn signals, dash lights....everything in the correct colors.   You can buy it as a blue led kit, but I chose the stock color that works with the diffuser caps in the instrument cluster.

Currently my tach isn't working correctly.  Its 500rpm to low and the clock doesn't work.   You can get those replaced at http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/custom/.   Its a bit expensive.  they use the guts from a VDO gauge for the tach.  The did the gauge cluster for the PureVision Torino.

I figure if I have to spend that much money I might fabricate my own gauge cluster and use good gauges like Autometer, etc.   I'm undecided at this point and I rather spend the money on the rear differential at this point in time.

Hope this helps...The most difficult part of the gauge restoration is getting a "clear" cluster lens.  Most yellow badly and you can't buy replacements anywhere.

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I have a HiPoParts kit in my car as well. Works excellent. 
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Andy & Paul, I ordered the HiPo gauge LEDs today, I probably won't have time to install this weekend, but I am pumped to actually be able to see my gauges clearly.  Thanks for the advice, I emailed them a question and they answered within 5 minutes today.  Good guys, too!!!
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CryPlease help, I have a 73 gran torino sport and am trying to upgrade the instrument cluster to the full set of gauges, I thought it would be sort of plug and play but I have quickly figured out this is not the case. I need a wiring diagram for the instruments. Does anyone know a site to get this info?
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Took my sports cluster off and half the bulbs are missing. Any know the the amps across the board?
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Originally posted by 73sportAZ 73sportAZ wrote:

CryPlease help, I have a 73 gran torino sport and am trying to upgrade the instrument cluster to the full set of gauges, I thought it would be sort of plug and play but I have quickly figured out this is not the case. I need a wiring diagram for the instruments. Does anyone know a site to get this info?
  Search in the "HOW to SECTION" of this forum, there is a sticky there on this with diagrams. It should cover your ?'s
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