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Originally posted by bdaugette bdaugette wrote:

I am thinking there is a tiny screw on the clock shaft. Take a look, it’s tiny.

Yup there is and is just snapped the shaft trying to break loose that tiny screw.
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I have a tach and gauges dash from a 72 Torino that I would like to install in my 76 Torino that currently has the standard dash. Looking at the posts on this thread I think my cat has a six pin connector in it now. Has anyone done this conversion? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
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it can be done
i think the 72 connector has 2 less wires?
 i swapped a sport dash into my 74 but it was 74 to 74 and i had to swap positions on 2 or 3 wires in the connector
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Originally posted by MACH429 MACH429 wrote:

I have a tach and gauges dash from a 72 Torino that I would like to install in my 76 Torino that currently has the standard dash. Looking at the posts on this thread I think my cat has a six pin connector in it now. Has anyone done this conversion? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.


Read the first page of this tread, it will help you understand the difference of the two clusters you have. 72 uses a 12 pin connector, 76 uses a 14 pin connector. So the 72 cluster will not plug into your 76 harness. I’d imagine you would have to cut off your 76 wire harness plug and splice every wire to the 72 connector plug (assuming you have the 72 plug that connects to the circuit board). If you don’t have the harness plug for the 72 cluster, you might want to find one.
I’m NO expert on this, but might be a lot easier if you simply source a 76 sport cluster.

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does the car need the ammeter shunt wire added in or does it already exist in the 1976 factory harness?
 
and the 72 uses the 3 wire tach that is wired in series to the coil + ...
 
besides possibly tracing, repining and splicing in a 12 pin plug to suit the 72 cluster, those are the 2 biggest hurdles i can think of
 
a work-around that may help make it happen is convert the ammeter to volts, use a 2 wire tach and white gauge face overlays so the fonts all match. you may need both the 72 and whatever year the tach is (for the odometer openings to be in the right place) overlay kits but that's the least of it
 
 
 
 
 
 
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MACH429, there is a member selling a 75/76 sport cluster right now on the forum! It might be an easier option for you, check it out...

http://forum.grantorinosport.org/gauge-cluster_topic16747.html

...and PM me if you end up wanting to sell your 72 cluster ok, thanks.

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Thanks to everyone for the information. I'm going to pull out the standard cluster and see if I can trace out the wiring. Converting to volts will probably be my best option. Your help is much appreciated.
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but is there an ammeter in the stock cluster,
or just the ALT warning lamp?

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The stock cluster has no ammeter so there is likely no shunt. The easiest way would be to use a voltmeter. Rocketman can convert an ammeter gauge to a voltmeter.

Also the early cars used two wire Tachs and then later cars used three wire. Three wire Tachs are easier to deal with and Rocketman can convert them too.
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oops i thought it was the other way around on the tach wire count
 
2 wires is early, straight through in series
 
3 wires is late, power / ground / signal
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