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    Posted: 09-March-2015 at 3:01PM
Here is a sticky thread for all the info on Headers!
 
Tell us what YR, Motor, Tranny and THEN what headers (Make, model, part # etc...) you have!
 
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72, Gran Torino, 302, C4
 
80s/90s Stock Mustang GT Headers, had to grind the flange a little to slip by the gear box.
 
 
 
 
 
 


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'72 Torino. 351W, C6 auto (the deal breaker for many headers), floor shifter & power steering... FPA 1-5/8" x 1-3/4" stepped long-tubes w/ 3" collectors. Originally patterned up in/for a '68 Mustang for a 351W/C6 swap. Passenger side goes in from above, driver side goes in from underneath. No need to unbolt or move anything. Clears tranny by a mile and collectors do NOT hang down. Actually had to roll the exhaust down a bit, after the collectors, to clear the humps in the tranny cross member.
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74 torino, 351W, AOD auto, JBA #1653S headers. both go in from the top,great steering box clearance, passenger side had to grind a little of the aod bellhousing by the top starter bolt for anti rattle/vibration purposes (fmx or c-4 should be fine) drivers side had to make two small dings in the bottom of the #1 tube to clear the motor mount bolts/poly lock nuts(i'm using prothane motor mounts (may not be an issue with stock style mounts as they have rivets instead of large thick lock nuts)

pics in my build thread:
  http://forum.grantorinosport.org/johns-74-sh-clone-build-thread_topic10024_page2.html
 

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75 Sport, 521 (big block), C6, PS.

Hooker 6126 ceramic coated.

Fits about as good as it gets. Touches the steering gear, engine must be partially out to install the haeders and to replace the driver side gasket. Had to put heat wrap on transmission cooling lines, and I should put some heat wrap on the steering gear.

Some say part of the steering linkage may hit, but I have not had that problem.
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73 Brougham, Hedman long tubes, 351c, C4 auto, soon to be toploader.....will see if these still fit after!
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73 351W FMX PS/PB.  Summit Racing headers.  Went in from top and no issues at all!! Hooked  up to custom 2.5 in dual with H pipe.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Regul8r Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2015 at 3:20AM
Please include part #s on your threads.
That will greatly help!
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Anyone using long tube headers that actually clear the linkage with a 351C and top loader in the 72 - 76?  
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I have had NO luck with headers on my 1973 GTS, running a 351C 4V heads and intake with a C6 transmission.....any ideas ?
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I am curious what the difference in flow is for a factory SBF exhaust manifold v/s a Ford "Shorty" and the difference in flow between the "Shorty" and a full long tube header. Of more importance would be general power differences (both real and perceived).

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I realize this thread is a couple years old, but I just wanted to add another header option.  I don't know if anyone has used these for this application.  1976 Gran Torino, 351W, C6,  and I used Doug Thorley THY-268-1-C.  The driver side collector had to be ground down a bit due to the Ford steering gear.  Perhaps a Saginaw gear affords more room,  but it clears after a little work with the Ford gear.  Both sides dropped in from the top with loads of room on the passenger side.  Passenger side clears the starter with plenty of room.  No more heat soak.  And no more cooking the fuel line on the driver side. 
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always good to keep up on header fitment because availability is always changing
 
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'76 Gran Torino 460 floor shift - CRITES using factory mounts. $495.00

Passenger side collector was tight to C6 pan but Crites made me a new one to kick it away from the transmission.



They are individual 2" tubes with a slip fit, 3 1/2" collector, so installation is pretty easy... Harder getting the collectors on that installing the tubes!!!


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Below is some detailed information from aquartlow, Todd, sent me on installing Hooker Super Comps 6126's for a Big Block Ford. 
 
 
Originally posted by aquartlow aquartlow wrote:

 I had a couple interference issues with my Hooker SC headers, but they were not bad at all. Mine dealt with proximity to front brake lines, upper control arms, pitman arm and idler arm as well as heat to evaporator case which was solved by fabbing up and installing a simple heat shield and self adhesive backed heat shielding. The brake line issue was taken care of by fabbing up/cutting out simple 18ga sheet metal shields, upper control arm rather upper control arm chassis mounts needed just the rearward facing corner "nipped" off at a 45 degree angle(basically measured 1/4" from the corner each way and cut that off the mount-it is located below the upper control arm bushing).
 
The pitman arm is or was a self clearance type of deal, turning the steering wheel lock-to-lock placed a VERY small dimple in the driver's side header primary tube-just one tube. The passenger side needed a bit of idler arm grinding and re-positioning with a spacer/washer to gain enough clearance, but this could have been due to an aftermarket idler arm. I can tell you with certainty/honesty that the Hooker Sc's do an amazing job of snaking from the engine, missing the steering box, trans shift linkage, evaporator case, trans case and crossmember. 
 
I always heard or was told not to use headers, but leaving 40 or more HP/Tq numbers left on the table that I had paid for by either money out of pocket or time involved with porting the heads, installing my Hooker SC headers was a no-brainer. Since the 400 is a bit smaller package than a 460, you should have a bit more "wiggle" area to work with. If you do go with headers(and I would do it again), now is the time to fit them and make any necessary mods to have them fit correctly. In this I mean, if the header primary is hitting somewhere, either a dimple method(using a hammer and deep dwell socket on it's side) will add clearance or heat with oxy-actyl torch to manipulate the tubes for the needed clearance.
 
It sounds like a bunch of work but so is getting all the "right" parts for the engine build to make the most hp/tq, do not handicap it by using less than an optimum exhaust. It is a good idea to have the DS header positioned between the engine and chassis when installing the engine, this header has a lot more to contend with. Once all the header "mods" are taken care of, you can have them coated, after engine break-in of course. Hope this helps. Todd 
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Here is some information from the Torino Kid on Hooker Super Comps 6126 headers.  These are installed on a 351M that was installed in a GTS he bought.  This would be the same fitment for a 400 engine since it is externally identical to a 400.
 
For more information, see the original thread here:
 
 
 
Originally posted by The Torino Kid The Torino Kid wrote:

 
Super Comps that came with the GTS.
its a snug fit on the drivers side.


 
 
Here's where it gets tight, the last cylinder primary is on the corner of the steering box. Im sure it can be trimmed and the tuber "massaged" slightly.

A top view.

 
passenger side fits really well!

 
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Good pics above, but just remember, if your GTS has the Saginaw steering gear there will be extra clearance due to it's smaller size.
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72 GTS 472 BBF, C6 Auto, Standard Steering. 6126 Hookers clear everything in the engine bay.
Collectors fire right into the factory transmission mount, so I modified mine and reinforced it with metal bottom plates to minimize flex.
 

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72 GTS 351C  2V  C4 Column shifted.  Power steering.  Power brakes. A/C.
Hooker Comp 6915-1HKR
I went with the 4v headers bc I'll be installing 4barrel heads in the spring.
Because the description did not say "Gran Torino" I called their tech who said they'd fit.
These went right in from the bottom.  Literally took 10 minutes each to squirrel them into place.
No special bracket needed for ps pump.
I have not finished connecting the collectors to the H pipe yet, but do have all the parts and hope to finish this weekend. (Also doing a Edelbrock 2v 4brl intake and carb swap)
Eyeing the passenger side it seems one of the tubes may be a bit close to the idler arm but I won't know if it hits until I get it running.

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Originally posted by jbach72gts jbach72gts wrote:

72 GTS 351C  2V  C4 Column shifted.  Power steering.  Power brakes. A/C.
Hooker Super Comp 6915-1HKR
I went with the 4v headers ...


couple things in case you're not aware, that PN is regular Competition rather than Super Comp, 1.75" primary tubes vs 1.875". the PITA isn't the tube sizes alone but the shape of the tubes 

good news to hear they slide in w/o all the wrestling that the Super Comps for the same application require. also FYI the 4V flange ~shouldn't~ seal on the 2V head, but just right now i'm remembering that the 4V sealing bead around the port opening doesn't seal on the 4V head Ermm

maybe it seals on the 2V head better than the 4V, IDK ... Confused
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They look like they'll seal.
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after too many years of trying to seal Super Comps on 4V heads i took a real close look at all of it, turns out Australian 2V heads have enough meat around the port to seal a 4V header but US 2V's leave a side open. the gasket lasts a little while but it's unsupported and burns through. i ended up making a set of plates to help support the gasket. i traced the inside of a 2V gasket and the outside of a 4V gasket, the bolt patterns are the same but the material around the port is not


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