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Great looking 72 Thomas, and welcome! I used Moog #8307 for rear coil springs and KYB Excel-G # 343135 for the shocks. Made a world of difference on mine. The #8307 may not be enough of a drop for you, but I think it would be close. I'll add a pic of mine with that setup. This pic was taken before I lowered the front end with a cut taken out of the front springs, but the rear is same height. I also run 15" tires.


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Thomas, this is after I dropped the front end about 1/2".  There is a slight rake, but just right for me.

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Hello Matt!
Many Thanks! I can only give back! Thumbs Up What color is your Montego? Is that pure white?
I also believe that the height on the rear is quite the same.
Do you have the measurement from the center of the wheel to the fender lip?
If the height is not enough for me, is there something wrong about using minimum spacers to the springs? Does this work with the kyb shocks, or are they too short? I would reluctantly shorten the front springs. Or are there any moog spring options?
Have a nice day!
Greetings from austria!
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First of all,thanks for awesome thread.i´ve managed to do excellent
stance and ride for my GTS with reading this carefully.

it has 460 with lot of aluminium parts.used to be AC car but parts are removed.(not by me).Tires are 225/60r15 front and rear.
In front i installed TRW 80090 springs,cutted 1/2 coil plus 2inches of wire.
shocks are KYB´s gas-a-justs.rear springs are standards.
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looks good ! Thumbs Up
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Sweet ride!   I like it.
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Thank you for supporting comments!i´ll add more pics in pics of my car thread soon.
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Very nice car Beluski, the stance looks great. When you say you cut half a coil plus 2 inches of wire, what do you mean?  Do you mean you cut off half a coil, then measured about 2" and cut an additional 2" off the coil spring?
 
How do you like the ride and handling with the new springs?
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Thanks!yes,that right.half of coil and additional 2" i cut from coil spring wire.so 1/2 coil + 1/10 or so..
1/2 was maybe too high and i ruined one pair of 429 HD springs because i cutted too much.wanted to do it right and cut little by little to get right stance.
Ride and handling in my opinion is awesome.front is stiff but no too much.
little harder when using cutted 429HD springs,i think.
I have polyurethane bushings all around.also added ADDCO rear swaybar.
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I've read this whole thing in the past, but my mind is not retaining it.
Is there a post or a page here that comes to a conclusion on what front springs to use? Not sure I can read 28 pages again, I get confused.

Not a track car, but want to have fun on highway curves, etc.
I have the Ranchero and Torino Handling Manual, someday I may do what is in that book, but for now getting the car back on the road as inexpensively as possible is my main goal.

Stockish 72 Ranchero, 351C with AC, auto trans (for now at least), looking  for one inch or so lowered in front (willing to cut springs as needed). Improved handling (poly bushings except for strut rods), stock sway bar (again, for now at least), Lares 841 steering box. Willing to go a tad on the harsh side (scale of 1 - 10 with 1 being harshest) say a 4, maybe a 5 softest.
Shocks need to be determined as well.

15 inch rims, not going to change that. Front tires are 225/70/15

My brain hurts. Embarrassed

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Russ, I think it all boils down to a matte of taste. I have almost the same setup you do....72 Montego 351/C-4, 235/60-15 on the front with 15x8 rims. I went with CVPI Moog #80090 with 1/2 coil cut, and front shocks are KYB Excel-G #343128. It lowered the front end to the perfect height (for me), and handling/ride is MUCH improved.

I had the same problem when going through these posts. A LOT of good information here, but hard to dissect in a usable format.
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It's been discussed about trying to weed through this post.
The problem was I never expected this thread to get so long winded.
Lots of discussion but there are plans to clean this up considerably in a condensed posting.
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Maybe break this up into several threads...

some guys like going straight...big back tires skinny fronts (there are multiple divisions in this alone)
some like simply stock OEM
others slightly better handling than OEM without big changes
some want performance street handling
Another topic would be oriented performance street plus...more like pro touring and autocross
Then there is extreme track which can be divided again into oval, road racing, etc.

We have everything piled up in one post.

Problem its really hard to talk about springs without your target application and what wheel/tire combo your planning on using.   Oh almost forgot...not to mention shocks as well.




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John, that is one thing being considered.
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Originally posted by changinlatitudes changinlatitudes wrote:

Russ, I think it all boils down to a matte of taste. I have almost the same setup you do....72 Montego 351/C-4, 235/60-15 on the front with 15x8 rims. I went with CVPI Moog #80090 with 1/2 coil cut, and front shocks are KYB Excel-G #343128. It lowered the front end to the perfect height (for me), and handling/ride is MUCH improved.

I had the same problem when going through these posts. A LOT of good information here, but hard to dissect in a usable format.


Thanks, Matt.
Sounds like the Moog 80090 are what will be best for me.
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I hate to put this here...but has anyone run adjustable shocks?
I've been overall happy with the 80090 but I've noticed with my KYB monotube shock the front I tend to get slight bounce in the front. Keep in mind as most of you guys know I tend to push my car hard.
I also think coupled with the 40# steel wheels the unsprung weight of my combo might warrant a stiffer shock.
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I used Bilstein's.   Definitely more money than KYB.  I've been happy with them but they are not adjustable.   I used KYB in the past and wasn't happy with them.   They seem a step up over OEM.   Koni was way better, IMO.

if your really serious about a fully adjustable great quality shock...this is one of the most recommended I found.   Rebuildable, adjustable, and w/wo coilovers.   Not cheap, but the good stuff rarely is...
Basically select them based on length.   So dont get put off cause its mostly a chevy site.   This guy its is good resource regarding improving the handling.   I bought his book...and used some of the Chevy setups as a reference for improving our Torino.  Still a work in progress. I'm close but stalled due to other projects.   



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I have had my Bilstiens for going on 4 years or so. Very happy with them. No float or bounce and not harsh. You have to get them for a late 90s Crown Victoria. Make sure you get the performance versions not the comfort. I have used Bilstiens on a few of my trucks over the years too. They last a long time. 

I am sure the adjustable shocks would be the best setup but bang for the buck it's hard to beat Bilstiens. You can get them pretty cheap if you stop around. Rock auto usually carries them.
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For Andy or anyone else interested in Bilstien Shocks.  Here are the part numbers for the correct performance shocks for our cars:
 
Front
 
24-014953
 
Rear
 
24-014960
 
The front are out of stock at RockAuto, but the rears are in stock no at $81.79.
 
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