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Here you go...
Pumped air shocks all the way up!
 
275/60/15 rear on 15x7 rims, tire is 27.5" tall, fender sits at 29"
225/70/14 front on 14x7 rims, tire is 25.25"tall, fender sits at 26"
 
NOW... added the 295/50/15 tires on the 15x10 rims (3.5" backspacing)
Tire is 26" tall with fender sitting at 28.5"
You can see the tire sticks out and leaves alot of room to the frame.
NOW I dropped all the air out of the shocks to change the rake...
They RUB! Disregard the measurement card. The fender sits almost ON the tire!
 
 
Leave the 295/50/15(15x10rim) on the rear AND put the same on the FRONT!
Pumped the shocks back up for these.
With this combo it rubbed the front and rear of the front fender.
A small adjustment to the backspace would make it clear (MAYBE)
But damn it looks badass! NASCAR/MADMAX style like a bulldog that says DO NOT F**K WITH ME!
Here's the pics of the 295 on the front rubbing and rear clearance
 
Dropped the air pressure out of the shocks with the 295s on front and rear...
WOW THAT HAS A COOL FLAT STANCE!!!
Forgot that pic!!! Angry
 
Here's the PLAY with the rear wheel...
These are with the Airshocks pumped back up all the way.
Turned the rim around so instead of a 3.5" backspace it had 6.5"
With a 1/4" spacer it would bolt up without touching the rim cone to the drum.
With a 1" spacer it would clear everything at the frame and still be tucked inside the fender.
So I THINK a 4"-5" back space would put the tire and rim in the right place.
 
Clearance is TIGHT with the 6.5" backspace...
Wheel is tucked in...
Dropped all the air out of the shocks and it almost looks like it is tubbed...
 
So there are my Tire adventrues for the day!
 
MY decision...
295/50/15 on the back with a 15x10 rim have to decide on the backspace most likely 5" so it sits right inside the fender lip after I roll the lip under and smoothe the sharp edges.
255/60/15 OR 255/70/15 on the front with a 15x8 rim and then play with backspace to fit it in.
Have to put both under the fender and see what looks right, I am thinking the 255/60 is the right one!
 
 
 


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Originally posted by 73 ProStreetTorino 73 ProStreetTorino wrote:

so those are the 15x10's you got from Brent in AZ.No wonder you wanted pics of the rim sticking past with 3.5 back spacing.Wow with the tire they stick out pretty far.Wish you measured from the outside of the tire to the inside of the quarter lip,tuat would tell me how much I need to narrow the rear.I knew I wouldn't have to worry about the frame rails.I believw Gary is running or had 15x10 w/4.5 backspacing & said they clear & no rubbing.not sure on tire size but it's in this thread.I want that deepdish look so i'm gonna narrow the rear so they fit inside.Thanks for the photos that helps.Your gonna have a hard time finding 15x10 slots with 4.5 backspacing.Most did the airshocks & tires sticking out in the 70's.If you don't use those 15x10 3.5 bs slots,do you want to sell them?I tried to get them but Brent had already told you could buy them.
 
 
Yes, they are the rims I got from Brent in AZ.
I am not going to use them, will definately sell them to you. PM Me, I will look through my PM's find out what I paid total with shipping and that is what I'll sell them for plus shipping.
 
I saw the post that someone had 15x10 with the deeper backspace and 295/50/15 as well... REALLY WANT TO SEE THOSE PICS!!!
 
I am going to order a cheap set of steel wheels just to use for fit and measurements during the restoration/build.
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Carl, had I known...I have a pair of 15x10 Chrome Aero Racing wheels sitting in the garage, 5" offset.
Brand new in the box!
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Here is the pick off Summit Racing's site-
Link to Summit's site http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEO-58-204550/?rtype=10

Direct link to Aero Racing's site: http://www.aeroracewheels.com/wheel_pgs/fifty_eight_series.html 

And for kickers, for the love of Pete someone buy my nascar 15x9.5 wheels. There are Aero Racing's type 59, true, honest to goodness super speedway wheels.
Only thing is, you are going to have to run a 5x5 lincoln bolt pattern. Easy enough to change up front, but rear axle, you are going to need to get axles or redrill your bolt pattern. Oh, did I mention, you will need a 5/8" wheel stud and 1" lug nuts? Wacko


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And for your 295/50r15 pleasure:
And for the record, these wheels will turn lock to lock and not rub with 295's on them. My only issue is I saw the tire seem to get close to my wheel lips, but I have the extreme short coil spring.
I did NOT fit them out back because I can't use as I didn't convert to 5x5 on my axles.

I however have 11x2.5 drums, backing plates off a 77 LTD with the 5x5 bolt pattern, and a pair of usable 1972 mark5? 12" rotors. It would require getting the full size caliper bracket.

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Hey guys,

Came across some pics of my old Starsky LE. I had 15 x 10 ET IV slots with LR60-15 Eagle GT's on the rear with 14 x 6 ET IV's with the OEM BF Goodrich HR78-14's on the front. Kept the air shocks about 90% filled because the wheel lip would touch just enough to cut into the sidewalls. Had I known how at the time, I would have rolled the wheel lips and all would have been fine. Not sure what the back spacing was but they were nice and deep! Here are a few pics.....
 
 
 
 
Hope this was helpful.
 
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Andy,
those 15x10 black racing wheels are what offset? 5 inch?
 
LOVIN THE LOOK OF THOSE 295/50/15 on the front!!!
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Off hand, not 100%. The rims are classed as a 15 x 9.5" rim; I have never checked the offset on the wheels to confirm.
On my GTS...depending on how much tires will end up costing, I may actually put OEM front brakes back on my car and pull the crown vic brakes because I desperately just want to really run a 295/50r15 up front.
I need to debate things. No happy medium here man...LOL
I thankfully have my 1976 Spindles and the 1976 9" that I may just take and redrill the axles and new rotors for a 5x5 bolt pattern with 5/8" wheel studs.
I already have the correct brakes for it, and the wheels.
I will however need to replace my front springs either way because the fronts are too short and I don't want the tires rubbing on the front lips.
Don't know yet.
I have one last option I need to look at before I give up on 295 series tires.

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Think I found my solution.
Carl, sent you a PM.
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Well, bit the bullet.
Got new rollers ordered from Summit Racing.
nitto 255/50R17 front and 275/50R17 out back. Crager 17x9, with help from one of the guys on Ford Muscle.
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Here is his 1972 Gran Torino...I sold him a hood like 7 years ago.


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Are those Cragar wheels or Ford Bullit wheels? They look good on that Torino! Tire sizes??
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Nope, rim I picked was a 17x9, 5" backspacing {according to cragar's tech guy I emailed, the wheel is technically a 10" wide rim, lip to lip, which will have a zero offset. Will see when I get the wheels for the GTS, I will document for you guys.
I only went to this combo after deciding against a 295/50R16 BFG because I could not get a slightly narrower front tire.
 
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Wheels are I want to say on that grey formal roof are the torque thrusts, but don't know for sure.
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Andy,
the pics you posted of the 295's on the front...
those are with the 9.5's or 10's??
 
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The wheels up front are the Nascar 15 x 9.5 wheels. The ones that have the 5 x 5 bolt pattern.
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I love those aero NASCAR wheels. I was looking at them online and i was wondering,are the NASCAR 15x9.5s the same design as the 58 series? Would it look weird if I put the NASCARs on the back and 15x8s on the front? thanks, Lou

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MORE tire work!

Here are 245/60/14 tires mounted on 14x8 rims with 2.5" backspacing
25" tire height
26" fender height
 
 
 
NOW here is a comparison of this tire MOUNTED next to my 265/50/15 tire NOT mounted.
 
 
First look with the 2 tires side by side and looking a them... the 245/60/14 actually looks BETTER than the 265/50/15!?
I will post all the sizes info I have for Comparisons in another post.
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here is what I came up with...
 
I THINK it will look great with 295/50/15 on 15x10 rims for the rear and 245/60/14 on 14x8 rims out front.
These are VERY close in height/diameter AND sidewall, so they will look close to the same just a little thinner on the front.
That is IF I do not go with the 295/50/15 all the way around!
 
tire size MAX Inflation Tread Depth Tire Weight Width Range Rim Width Sect Width Tread Width Sidewall Height Overall Diam. Height RPMs
295 50 15 2061 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 32lbs 8-11" 9.5" 12.2" 147.5cm 26.7" 779
275 60 15 2149 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 36lbs 7-9.5" 8" 11" 9.7" 165cm 28" 743
255 60 15 1885 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 29lbs 6.5-10" 7.5" 10.2" 159cm 27.1" 768
265 50 15 132.5cm
245 60 14 1675 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 26lbs 7-8.5" 7" 9.8" 147cm 25.6" 813
225 70 14 1675 lbs 35 psi 12/32" 26lbs 6-7.5" 6.5" 9" 157.5cm 26.5" 785
 
Apparently the 265/50/15 are an ODD size, I can only find them in a few off brand tires.
BOTH the 245/60/14 and 295/50/15 are readily available in the BF Goodrich everywhere for around $100 each.
 
Edited... Forgot to say I use TireRack.com and the BFG's for all the above info


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Lou-
They type 59 Nascar wheels are only available in a 5x5 bolt pattern, like what the Lincoln and full size Ford/ Mercury use. Thing is, depending on how your state is on local inspections on older cars, you would be better off going to someone like Bassett. Otherwise, another source for wheels is to seriously check around at local race shops that do IMCA or modified racing.
There is a race shop here in Omaha that one of my cousins use to co-own that he got out of, that they have a ton of 15" steel wheels in a 15x8 for pretty cheap new.
You can also pick up cragar steel D window wheels that are DOT legal pretty reasonable, I got my set at Summit racing.

http://www.bassettwheel.com/dot.html 

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Andy,
looks like I am gonna pass on those rims at this time.
 
Have to decide what I am going to do on the front.
15x10 all the way around and I can use them.
 
If I go with the 14x8 on the front... it SERIOUSLY lessens my choice of wheels!
 
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pretty much, but any of our cars look alot better with a wide wire to fill up the wheel well.
On the rims, the easiest is a 15x8 in front, 15x10 in back.
A 15x10 can be run on all 4 corners, but I have never personally verifed yet with the 15x10's I have being street driven.
On a street car, one thing I wanted to bring up is the fact a car with steamroler tires loks great, but wider tires have the annoying tendancy to grab ruts and wander a bit.
I drove my '84 F150 for 5 years with 295/50/15's 3/4 of the year, and I will tell you, ruts and heavy water, even with an all sean BFG radial TA would make things interedting at times.
It's been a very long time since I've driven with a 295/50r15 on the front of a Torino, not since I had my parent's 1976 Elite, have I run a 15x8 with a 295/50r15, when I was in high school in the early-mid 90's.
With that said though, a 295 will fit up front.
if the weather is decent enough, I will try to get a 295 mounted onto one of the chrome wheels and fit it on the '73 GTS front and then I will toss on the back of my '72 GTS.
 
 
 
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Well I know the 15x10 rims I have will not do the trick without a little mod.
 
They rubbed the front AD rear of the front quarter. I think a deeper set(more backspace would let them clear without issue. I just need to make sure the offsets are the same so the front doesn't stick out further than the rear.
 
So I just might take the rims after all!
I got the 245/60/14's cleaned up and ready to mount just for moving and size comparison.
I have 255/60/15s on the front of my truck with 295/50/15 on the back... they look good in combo... MIGHT be a good fit all around.
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Andy-
this is kind of delayed but, Maryland couldn't care less about old cars until they cause a wreck. I love how those chrome aero wheels look and they are reasonably priced to, whats not to love!
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15x8 4.5 backspace rear 275/60/15
15x7 3.5 backspace front 225/70/15
Could go a bit taller on the rear, but I was not sure and did not want to over do it.
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Removed original post...
The look I want... big fat rear rubber that does not stick out ridiculously from the fender well.
Front smaller but still a GOOD size rubber and again... not sticking out... tucked in like the photo I have on here with the keystones!
 
I think I just found the Rims!!!
 
15x8 comes in 3 different backspaces, I think the 4.5 would be best? Maybe the 3.5?
thats why I am looking for a pic of the 15x8 and what tire & backspace you have. 
 
 
Will fit the 245/60/15 tire which is 26.6 tall
 
15x10 comes in 5 different backspaces best one is 4.5 or 5.5 depends on if the 5.5 with tire rubs.
 
Will fit the 295/50/15 which is 26.7 tall
 
smaller yet same height on front
the 255/60/15 is 27.1 tall which is a little bit taller than the 295/50 rear
 
 
Pulsars are nice too...
 


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Speaking of which, I got the 295/50/r15 mounted up today. Of course, I dropped the GTS off at the paint shop, but I could fit the setup on the '73 GTS if need be.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gpd294 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-April-2010 at 2:30AM

I figured now that I have installed my original steel wheels and new tires I'd post a few pictures. I took it back to original, although I did fudge a little bit because I couldn't justify spending over $200 per tire (Coker Tire) for a weekend toy. I went with P215 75 14 white walls all the way around and a spare. The steel wheels were cleaned up, sanded down, and POR-15 painted. I figure if I ever do any cross country trips I'll have to upgrade to either a 15 inch or bigger wheel.

Here is a pic:
 
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Dude, I like your wagon!
On the stock look, they fit the bill really nice.
If you happen to need a set of 15" steel OEM torino wheels, let me know.
I've been keeping a set around here in case I ever need a set of wheels for a project, but would be willing to let go to a good home. Like your wagon. Thumbs Up
 
Only bummer thing is to ship them!
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Reading back through the whole thread it appears MANY different BS have been used on the front.

What it the largest measured backspace that fits on the 72?
I see a couple saying they have 4.5" of backspace.
I would like to see some good pics of a 15x8 rim with 4.5" backspace.
Pic where the rim is close to the top of the spindle by the upper ball joint and anywhere else it comes CLOSE!
Also where the tire clears the front and rear of the fender lip.
 
I THINK... a 15x8 with a 4.5 BS will allow the front tire to tuck up into the fender IF the car was lowered substantially without rubbing. Or at least not rub when hitting bumps and turning.
 
Someone help with pics?
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