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Psquare75
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Please list the following for your car..
Year Make Model Tire size Wheel width and offset Lowering amount, if any Rubbing issues experienced, if any Any other pertinent info you think might be of use to us (ex- I have air shocks in the back so nothing rubs, you get the idea) |
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Psquare75
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1978 Mercury Cougar
255 50 17 in front, 275 50 17 in rear 17 x 8 3.5" back spacing in front, 17 x 9 4.5" back spacing in rear No lowering So tight I cannot run a mud flap on the passenger fender. Rear fits with room to spare. |
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Torinogts73c
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245/60-15 with 15x7 Magnums 4.25 back space on the front 295/50-15's on the rear w/15x8 magnums 4.5 backspace. thinking about swapping to 15x10 's for the rear same size tire . 1.5 " lowered in front with 2001 Crown Vic interceptor springs Ford #D9AZ-5310-W . Rides & handles great!
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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler
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1975MontegoMX
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1975 Mercury Montego MX
15/60/245 15x7 (Don't Know Backspace) Stock Height No Rubbing Im running Monroe-Matic Gas Shocks all around |
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1975 Mercury Montego MX /351 M/
1986 Ford Crown Victoria /302/"5.0" |
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mcford
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couple different cars.
72 sport - ran 275/60r15 on a 15x8 magnum 500 rear and 215/70r15 on a 15x7 magnum 500 front. dont know the backspace.
72 Ranchero - 255/60r15 rear and 245/60r15 front on factory ford 15x7 magnum 500's.
72 gran torino 4dr - 235/70r15 rear on 15x8 street star and 215/65r15 front on 15x7 street star wheels.
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JimW
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1976 Gran Torino, stock 351M non A/C springs, stock replacement shocks, AL headed big block/C6/battery in trunk, no front bumper support
265/50/15 on 15x8 TT2 in front (3.5" backspace I think) one front fender real tight in the back.
275/60/15 on 15x8 TT2 in the rear (same backspace) tight to rear fender lips, needed some clearancing with the BFG DR's but the MT DR's clear fine.
Jim
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1976 S&H Gran Torino
460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6 545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8 More to come!!!! 463rwhp/495rwtq two tons of fun see it and hear it at: www.torinocobra.com www.st |
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GranTorinoMan
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72 Ford Gran Torino Sport
Front Tire - P225/70R15
Rear Tire - P275/60R15
Rear Drag Tire - 28x14.5-15LT (Drag tire rubs, air shocks pumped up to clear)
Front Rims - 15x8 - (3.75" Backspacing)
Rear Rims - 15x10 - (4" Backspacing)
Drag Rear Rims - 15x10 - (4" Backspacing)
Stock Springs
Rear axle housing slightly narrowed 1" each end.
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MarkGubinski
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Chris, 14.5 on a 10 wheel? And doesn't it also rub on the front part of the frame rail near where the lower arm mounts?
Drag Only 1972 GTSs
26x4.5 front
29x11 on 15x10 back on my car (514 cu.in.)
28x10 on 15x10 on my son's car (472 cu.in.)
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72 Gran Torino Sport 557
10.12 @136 @3600lbs. 2 Time Milan Dragway Track Champion. 2012 IHRA Div. 5 No-Box Champion. 97 career wins. |
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picon3
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I went with Vintique's Magnum 500 15 x 8 wheel:
72 Ford Gran Torino Sport
Front Tire -P255/60/R15
Rear Tire - P275/60/R15
Front Rim -15x8 - (4.50" Backspacing)
Rear Rim - 15x8 - (4.50" Backspacing)-fills the rear wheel nicely. No rubbing.
Center Bore Diameter 2.125 inch with press on caps.
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1972 GTS 351CJ-4V black/black
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rtgreen
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This vendor is running a sale on Magnum 500's from 18x10 to 20x10 in Deep Dish styles. The 1994-2004 Mustang fitment will work on our cars. Enjoy!
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72 Gran Torino Sport Q 4spd in Light Pewter Metallic
2012 Mustang GT (Brembo) 5.0, 6MT, 3.55s 1995 Bronco - 5.0 5spd. |
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1973 429 torino
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1973 Gran Torino Sport
Front 15x7 Wheel Vintique Magnum 500 235/60r15 Rear 15x10 Wheel Vintique Magnum 500 295/50 r15 No rubbing, nice fit |
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Eliteman76
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1972 Gran Torino Sport
16 x 7 Ford Crown Vic police steel rim {same thing as what rangers, explorers use 1998-2002}
Kumho 245/50/16 sport radial*
1973 Gran Torino Sport
16 x 7 Ford Crown Vic police steel rim
Goodyear Eagle 225/60/16 radial*
*Note- these tires are both too short of a side wall for my liking.
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Ranchero72
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1972 Ford Ranchero 500
14x7 OEM Magnum 500 wheels Road Runner G 78-14 tires |
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'72 Ford Ranchero 500
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Eliteman76
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OK, question time:
What are the largest tires that will fit our cars out back, when plus-sizing?
I am looking for a 17" tire, but I want something in the range of a 275 series, around a 30" tall. I want to say there is a 275/60r17 on General's site in the grabber UHP series.
I also saw a 255 tire...but at 27" tall, too short for my taste for back tires.
I looked at the typical Mustang type 275/40r17, and forget it, I don't want a donut 25" tall tire. I need some sidewall!
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Psquare75
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Andy, this is a 275 50 17 on a 17x9 rim.
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Paul
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Eliteman76
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What's the overall hight on that tire? My concern with the 50 series, it may be too wide for the 8" rim width.
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gpd294
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I am looking for original size white wall tires for my wagon. I have a 1975 Gran Torino Wagon. What would yall recommend? P205 75 14's, P215 75 14's, or something else?
I'm not looking for a bigger wheel combo as I am wanting to keep my original Torino hub caps.
Thanks, Carlos
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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station
Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana |
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Eliteman76
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On a wagon, I would of thought by 1975 they would have been a 15" rim.
On that car, i would think the tire size should be around a 225/75 or a 235/75 series size tire.
205 and 215 seem entirely too small for the weight of a Wagon, let alone a 4 door or coupe.
You can still run a bit of a tire on a 14" rim, but the sizes are getting increasingly a pain to find.
I forget, but I would image a 225/60 will fit a 7" wide rim?
Or, at the wheels you have a 14x6?
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gpd294
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According to Coker Tires website it states the 1975 Wagon had size HR78-14 tires. Isn't this a bias ply tire??? Can someone tell me what this translates to when it comes to radial tires???
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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station
Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana |
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Eliteman76
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This was something I found poking around the net with Google...I think this would apply well with our Heavy Torinos.
From what I gather, you should stick at least a 225/75/R14 tire on your car.
If I was you, I would upgrade to Ford 15"x7" steel wheels, and go to a 235/75/r15 for a larger stock Torino sized tire that a lot of cars had. Every Elite I have owned were factory 15" wheel cars.
The Gran Torino Sports I have owned have all had 14x8 wheels, I have some 14x8 factory steel rims That I have held onto a few as spares with original bias Goodyear or Firestone tires because I like the look of the old tires.
Remember, you have a wagon. That car has some serious heft to it.
If you want to stick a whitewall on there, stick with a good brand...you are going to spend twice for white walls versus a blackwall or raised white letter, judging by the Coker Classic line of wide white walls, but BFG would be another good choice.
I figure you will have $900 for 4 tires, $1,125 for 4 plus the spare, and that's not including the shipping.
I would tell you to check out a local you-pull it for a 80's crown vic, those wheels should still accept the Torino center cap if the rim's center has the bumps for retaining the cap.
If you wanted to get fancy, I have a set of the Elite specific slotted stainless steel hubcaps, but you would need a 15" rim.
This bit came off here:
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gpd294
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This may be helpful to anyone who may have the same dilemma.
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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station
Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana |
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Torinogts73c
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295/50-15 is a good fit and easy to find as well!
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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler
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Torinogts73c
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28x13.50x15 How's that sound?? Try going to http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.php?item=ETStreetRadial that should give you plenty to think about.
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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler
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crispy23c
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Question: I have a chance on a good deal for a NICE set of torque thrust wheels. Dimensions and offsets are:
Front: 18x9 wheels 4" offset 245/40/18 9.65" wide x 25.72 high
Rear: 18x10 wheels 6" offset 285/35/18 (worn should be replaced) 11.22"w x 25.85" Tall
Question is, it looks like these should fit EXCEPT I am not sure about the 6" offset on the rears with this setup. I could always go a little skinier on the rear but with the 6" offset I am not sure
The fronts sound like they would fit, but tight. Opinions? I could probably put the fronts on the rear rims and get skinnier on the fronts, but I want to make sure I am not wasting my money...
Thanks!
Chris
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crispy23c
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THanks, my concern was especially with the rears and the huge offset. I was not convinced, but it was a pretty damn good deal.
I will pass on that deal, thanks for the advice. Most of my looking has baan in the 15" & 16" range. Congrats on your wheel deal!
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crispy23c
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Hey, I may live in NH, but even I don't walk around carrying a shotgun in the front yard!
So, 15x10 with a 4.5" or 5" offset will fit under our wells without modification? Good to know.
Looks like I will be sticking with 15x9 or 15x10 for the rears when I finally get there. The car will be dropped a little and I now believe it will fill out the wells nicely when it's complete.
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Eliteman76
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Something from a recent email I sent to Crager's tech email:
Both the 17x9 and 17x8 are 0 offset. The 17x8 is 4.5” and the 17x9 is 5.0”.
Thanks,
Jeff Danbom CRAGAR Industries, Inc. Tel. 877.8CRAGAR (877.827.2427) Fax 877.827.2427 -----Original Message-----
Jeff- Thank you for the info on that, I just did not want to assume before I order a set of wheels from Summit Racing. One more question, on the 17" wheels, are any made with a neutral offset? I am mainly looking for wheels that, for all intense purposes are as an example 17x8, with a true 4" offset, or in the case of the 17x9, a 4.5" offset so the wheel is on the center line of the hub mount surface.
Thank you,
Andrew
In a message dated 11/10/2009 2:23:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, jeffdanbom@cragar.com writes:
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Regul8r
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post a picture of that!
jack it up from the center of the diff, mount the rim and take some pics of just the rim on it.
Some shots with yard stick to show the measurements.
THAT would greatly help us all.
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Regul8r
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Here you go...
Pumped air shocks all the way up!
275/60/15 rear on 15x7 rims, tire is 27.5" tall, fender sits at 29"
225/70/14 front on 14x7 rims, tire is 25.25"tall, fender sits at 26"
NOW... added the 295/50/15 tires on the 15x10 rims (3.5" backspacing)
Tire is 26" tall with fender sitting at 28.5"
You can see the tire sticks out and leaves alot of room to the frame.
NOW I dropped all the air out of the shocks to change the rake...
They RUB! Disregard the measurement card. The fender sits almost ON the tire!
Leave the 295/50/15(15x10rim) on the rear AND put the same on the FRONT!
Pumped the shocks back up for these.
With this combo it rubbed the front and rear of the front fender.
A small adjustment to the backspace would make it clear (MAYBE)
But damn it looks badass! NASCAR/MADMAX style like a bulldog that says DO NOT F**K WITH ME!
Here's the pics of the 295 on the front rubbing and rear clearance
Dropped the air pressure out of the shocks with the 295s on front and rear...
WOW THAT HAS A COOL FLAT STANCE!!!
Forgot that pic!!!
Here's the PLAY with the rear wheel...
These are with the Airshocks pumped back up all the way.
Turned the rim around so instead of a 3.5" backspace it had 6.5"
With a 1/4" spacer it would bolt up without touching the rim cone to the drum.
With a 1" spacer it would clear everything at the frame and still be tucked inside the fender.
So I THINK a 4"-5" back space would put the tire and rim in the right place.
Clearance is TIGHT with the 6.5" backspace...
Wheel is tucked in...
Dropped all the air out of the shocks and it almost looks like it is tubbed...
So there are my Tire adventrues for the day!
MY decision...
295/50/15 on the back with a 15x10 rim have to decide on the backspace most likely 5" so it sits right inside the fender lip after I roll the lip under and smoothe the sharp edges.
255/60/15 OR 255/70/15 on the front with a 15x8 rim and then play with backspace to fit it in.
Have to put both under the fender and see what looks right, I am thinking the 255/60 is the right one!
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Regul8r
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Yes, they are the rims I got from Brent in AZ.
I am not going to use them, will definately sell them to you. PM Me, I will look through my PM's find out what I paid total with shipping and that is what I'll sell them for plus shipping.
I saw the post that someone had 15x10 with the deeper backspace and 295/50/15 as well... REALLY WANT TO SEE THOSE PICS!!!
I am going to order a cheap set of steel wheels just to use for fit and measurements during the restoration/build.
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