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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-August-2022 at 4:49AM
Wow! Just saw this... Glad Johnny is OK.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hogfiddles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-August-2022 at 6:38AM
Here’s the grill I have.... I guess the plastic has some cracks in it, so that would be out.

The surround is pretty good..... I might have better vertical metal trims for in the grille but I’ll have to look.  

I sent a video to John..... hope it went through.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve M. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-August-2022 at 8:31AM
Between all of us, he should be all set. I  have two geills, one is painted rattle can black. With a surround. It too is rattle can black no dwnts.
  The other geill has  cracks similar to the one pictured above.  
  Its surround it is painted metallic silver with no dents 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve M. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-August-2022 at 8:42AM
I so need to get my glasses.  Forgive the misspellings 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-August-2022 at 10:23AM
 thanks everyone! dave i did get the video but didnt get to watch it thoroughly yet...

 just removed the mangled bumper assembly... Ouch 
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Ok, glad it went through
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:


 just removed the mangled bumper assembly... Ouch 

Hopefully getting that, the hood, and the Fender out of the way will make things look a whole lot less drastic.
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OMG!  So glad you are okay John.
There seems to be allot of accidents this year with the older cars :(
If anyone can rebuild it, it is you.  

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 yeah there has beenShockedCry
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a shout out to steve m. thanks!!! i got the trim and the NOS emblem todayBig smile
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77 CELICA CUSTOM
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No problem 
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John, I did not see that head on pic before. Wow. Lot harder than I originally thought I figured it was more like Matt Dragon's T bone accident back in 1981.

With that being said...
Fron frame clip might be do-able, but I would be really checking things for squareness. I know these were not exactly super tight tolerance vehicles when produced in the 1970's but I would certainly eyeball the frame in a cross pattern using the holes in the frame and check from multiple points.
I see no reason to salvage a diamond'ed frame unless it can be fixed with a rosebud torch and frame machine. 
I could see clipping the entire front section.

I am honestly curious on pictures of the A pillars, C pillars, and roof skin, if there are any impact deformation. Stuff I saw on a FB post, did not look like the impact twisted the body tub.

It goes without saying, but when you get to the point of inspecting the back half...Make sure you check the rear suspension. See if anything like the lower rear control arms got tweaked. Damaged bushings, etc. 
Impacts like that can ripple effect down an entire vehicle. See it too many times when I used to pull frames and pull unibody structures.
Maybe it's time to find a good used Crown Vic Police interceptor and do a 2003-2012 Front clip upgrade and get those 12.5"-13" front big brakes ;) 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hogfiddles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-August-2022 at 8:55AM
Great post...... I highly suspect John knows all that already, though..... but yep..... always good to remind, cuz it’s so easy to forget obvious stuff, too.
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 thats the plan!  Wink fwiw i already have the big lincoln 12 discs all the way aroundThumbs Up
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74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
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Well, well, well… Would you look at that —- we all called, too!!!
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mtburger sent me a side marker light... thanks mike! i got it today looks greatBig smile
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You are quite welcome Sir.
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Sent out a grill surround  today. One stud was snapped. There's a few scratches on it and some slight discoloration which will buff out. If I come across anything else that might help out, I'll let you know. 
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 wow thanks steve!
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74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
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Glad to help. I know where you're coming from. As someone who has been where you're at, I'm just glad that I can help. 
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 looks like its been a while ( post above says a year ago)... haven't done anything on my carCry just been busier than a cat covering sh*t latelyConfused with doing everyone Else's cars...
but i did message another buddy that does bodywork who offered me the use of his frame machineBig smile just need to go check it out then haul my car up there and pull the frame a bit then i can graft on the front sectionWink
 and today another torino guy asked if i had a good rear bumper brace? and he sent a pic showing about a dozen bumper guardsShocked (not sure why but i do need a nice pair for the front!!!) since i bought a nice front bumper but the guy accidentally sent a rechromed pair but they were for the rearCry so this may just be the answerWink probably do a parts swapBig smile
 like last year another kinda local guy wanted the spindle and brakes from the 73 parts ranchero, then one night i saw he posted a 72 scoop section from a hoodShockedShockedShocked messaged him, hey if you want to bring that hood section up i'll just swap you for the brakes you wanted!!! he agreed and didThumbs Up
 so i'm slowly rounding everything i need to fix my car...
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74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
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Good to see some progress though…can’t do a rebuild without parts
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That is good progress, the parts are the hardest part.
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Glad it's coming along.  Make sure you post the parts you still need and hopefully some the forum members can help you out. This car will live on!
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Great start.  I  saw that Steve Casteel was selling off some of his parts stash.  He might have some good parts. 
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