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fordpower 
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 Topic: ltd2 won't startPosted: 10-June-2020 at 7:18AM |
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Ok last fall before removing bat. decided to start one more time. Did not start fried small ground wore to inner fender. Decided to try starting last week and check grounds. Turn key click nothing. Redid bat terminals same. Though solenoid.Tried jumping it nothing.Checked with tester I have power on both sides. Starter? why? If it is started any ideas on a up grade.
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Rockatansky
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Posted: 10-June-2020 at 3:12PM |
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if it fried the body ground, that shows that the engine block ground is insufficient to carry the load of the starter. replace the Negative battery cable and see what happens. the block ground needs to go directly to the block, not the cylinder head, not the water pump, not to a front accessory bracket directly to a clean tight connection to the block
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californiajohnny
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Posted: 10-June-2020 at 7:48PM |
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yeah that's what i'm thinking too
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Posted: 11-June-2020 at 12:13AM |
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When you say engine block ground do you mean the neg battery cable,or am I looking for something else. Thanks,
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Posted: 11-June-2020 at 1:51AM |
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Below the alternator in the front if the block is a threaded hole for the cable end. The cable first makes a stop at the frame then onto the block. Rear of #4 cylinder is grounded to firewall. Same size bolt as front ground IIRC.
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Posted: 11-June-2020 at 2:26AM |
this^^^^ |
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Posted: 11-June-2020 at 12:29PM |
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Posted: 12-June-2020 at 5:52AM |
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That's what I was looking for.Thank you do not see ground at rear of motor? I had it all h checked out in 2014 I though.
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Posted: 12-June-2020 at 5:09PM |
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I have to add a ground from the block to the frame on mine but here is where it bolts onto the front.
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Posted: 13-June-2020 at 1:54AM |
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Best case, the ground runs to the block, frame grounds to the block, Body grounds to the block. Original body ground should be at the rear of the block and run to the firewall on passenger side.
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Posted: 13-June-2020 at 5:44AM |
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^^ THIS^^
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Posted: 13-June-2020 at 9:31AM |
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IIRC there was a ground jumper from the right side engine mount bolt to the frame,
and another from the trans dip tube securing bolt to the firewall. they usually end up in the pile of extra parts |
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Posted: 13-June-2020 at 12:07PM |
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I had no body or frame grounds when i got my Thunderbird. Car was already on its second (dead) engine. Went to AutoZone and got a couple short heavy cables with eyelets on the ends. Black Jacketing makes them disappear. I think they were for lawn mowers, they still have these out on the shelves.
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Posted: 13-June-2020 at 12:12PM |
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the original ground jumpers i've seen were insulated black
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Posted: 14-June-2020 at 12:06PM |
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Got it out of storage shed. Found ground from block to fire wall,it to was toasted insulation fell right off the end.
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Posted: 14-June-2020 at 1:22PM |
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Block ground is likely bad, starter is grounding/trying to ground thru the body ground, which isn't very big... |
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Posted: 23-June-2020 at 12:40AM |
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Replaced bat. ground wire. Order a 2g. it started right up. Going to replace all others as I locate. Thanks for all the help
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