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Great find !!!
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So what am I looking for? If I go back and look at that engine in the F-150, what are the "tells" to look for?
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Originally posted by unlovedford unlovedford wrote:

I have built a bunch of Bumpside ('67-'72) trucks and have found that a lot of supposed FE 390 truck engines are actually 352's. 360's were extremely common then as well for replacement engines. The combinations of FE displacements can range from a 332 to a 428. There are several overlaps that use the same bore and different strokes to acheive the desired displacement. On top of that, certain early 390 engines had the 352 ID on the block for some unknown reason.

If you wanted to look for a better engine that would be stronger, look for an FT version. FE stood for Ford-Edsel, FT stood for Ford Truck. Dimensions are identical, but the FT engines used steel cranks (v/s nodular iron), larger crank snouts, better mix of iron in the block/heads, heavier duty distributors, etc. Since you are rebuilding one anyhow, I would search for the FT block & crank, use the correct Cyclone heads/upper components and have a stronger bottom end.

Just my $0.02
I like the sound of this, will keep that in mind.
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I have found a local guy who is parting out a 69 Thunderbird with a 429, would this motor fit in my engine bay?
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I think it will.
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That would be radical!
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I am stupid, going to look at another wreck tomorrow-1961 Ford Starliner...
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Originally posted by foote500 foote500 wrote:

I am stupid, going to look at another wreck tomorrow-1961 Ford Starliner...
is that the one with the retractable hard top?
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Hardtop, looks like this:

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not the car is was thinking of, but cool though.
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No movement on either this car or the GTS, the GTS keeps waiting for the paint booth to come available. But, in the meantime, my dry rotted tires on this were bugging me so I got new tires for it.


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Some goodies; more to come such as exhaust manifold, date code correct block .40 over and bell housing.


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Sticking with the 390, I see...  Looking good!!
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Well, I think the 351 works good, I may just collect the parts for the 390 and drive the 351 till it is time to rebuild. Then the 390 is ready to drop in.

Plus, the guy who has all the hard to find parts wants to move to Tenn in about three years, so I have between now and then to buy parts.

Like today I just barely mentioned the exhaust manifolds-which are like hens teeth-so he whips a pair out... He has probably multiples of anything a Ford guy wants.


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Originally posted by foote500 foote500 wrote:

Well, I think the 351 works good, I may just collect the parts for the 390 and drive the 351 till it is time to rebuild. Then the 390 is ready to drop in.

Plus, the guy who has all the hard to find parts wants to move to Tenn in about three years, so I have between now and then to buy parts.

Like today I just barely mentioned the exhaust manifolds-which are like hens teeth-so he whips a pair out... He has probably multiples of anything a Ford guy wants.


Ask him for some 427 heads, the SOHC heads. Two would be just the ticket, ... and maybe the dual four barrel intake if he has at least one of those. Wink
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^^^ yeah, X2 on that!
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Just got another 4300 D, going on the cyclone until the 390 gets rebuilt. Going to send it to Allstate carb for resto first.




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I thought the 4300s were squarebore, and the 4350s were spreadbore?  I have a 1970 429 4300 sitting in the shop right now.
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Originally posted by foote500 foote500 wrote:

Originally posted by unlovedford unlovedford wrote:

I have built a bunch of Bumpside ('67-'72) trucks and have found that a lot of supposed FE 390 truck engines are actually 352's. 360's were extremely common then as well for replacement engines. The combinations of FE displacements can range from a 332 to a 428. There are several overlaps that use the same bore and different strokes to acheive the desired displacement. On top of that, certain early 390 engines had the 352 ID on the block for some unknown reason.

If you wanted to look for a better engine that would be stronger, look for an FT version. FE stood for Ford-Edsel, FT stood for Ford Truck. Dimensions are identical, but the FT engines used steel cranks (v/s nodular iron), larger crank snouts, better mix of iron in the block/heads, heavier duty distributors, etc. Since you are rebuilding one anyhow, I would search for the FT block & crank, use the correct Cyclone heads/upper components and have a stronger bottom end.

Just my $0.02
I like the sound of this, will keep that in mind.
 
Keep in mind, you will have to use the FT balancer, due to the larger snout diameter.  Best way I know to tell a 352 from a 390 is the flange on the back of the crank.
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FYI, a Holley elec choke housing is a bolt up, in place of the OE choke.  I ran one for years on my 429 4300.
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