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    Posted: 21-June-2018 at 6:57PM
My late uncle left a 1970 two door Torino GT Sportroof. From the VIN I know that it's a V4 429. It has black louvers and a shaker hood setup. It's an automatic with a bench seat. I need to sell it on behalf of the estate heirs and need help valuing it.
   It has one repaint, no body repair or rust that I can find, looks very straight with gaps at least equal to the factory, very good to excellent chrome except very minor pitting on door handles, matching numbers engine and transmission but out of car, 75 K miles and is red with a white bench interior in very good condition. Unfortunately the tag that would list original options, trim, etc was removed probably for the repaint and I haven't been able to locate it yet. It has the original Wheels.
   I tried Hagerty but they just give you a list of engines by horsepower and displacement and no choices for model or options that I can find.
   I live in northeastern Ohio (Akron-Cleveland area) and so far haven't been able to find anyone who can appraise it. If anyone can give me a lead about a possible appraiser, or if anybody wants to take a guess at what the value might be, I'd appreciate it. Thanks everybody!
    Ed H
   PS--It will come with a 460 that my uncle built and test ran but wasn't able to install due to deteriorating health. He was a professional mechanic who like to wedge in the largest displacement engine he could find (eg he replaced the 427 in his vette with a 454 that will burn rubber in first and second and chirp the tires in third) and built them for maximum power.

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Welcome to the forum!  I am sure we can give you an idea of the value of your car, but more information would be helpful.  Can you get the engine code from the VIN?  Can you take a photo or post the information on the door tag?  I'd also suggest posting some pictures of the car.
 
I'd also invest in a Marti report, so you can find out all the options the car has. A deluxe report is pretty cheap and it will give you a ton of information on the car's details.  It will also help with the sale of the car as most car buyers will want to see one.
 
 
If you need help on posting photos, follow this link:
 
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Sorry for your loss. I have no idea of value or advice for appraising/selling your Uncle's car but would love to see photos. We all love pics. Welcome and hope you stick around. Maybe you will end up building the car.

As far as the door tag goes, they may ha e pai ted over it. The stickers that I have seen say "VOID" when peeled off.
Here is an example of what I was saying.

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they are suppose to say void, you're not suppose to remove them. againt the law! you shall go to prison!. seriously, you can get a new one from marti autoworks. make sure you tell them it's Canadian. phred
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Thanks, everyone. A local guy who knows a lot about Torino's told me that the door ID is a metal plate, aluminum but painted black on one side. He showed me two holes in the door where it had been attached. Does this sound right? That's what I am searching my uncle's place for, as if he ever had it, it's there somewhere (though it may not have come with the car since he is not the original owner).
   Either way, I have ordered a Marti report that should give me the missing info--that was a great tip so thank you!
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We still want lots of pics.

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if you are talking about the certification tag (what you have pictured) it is on the drivers door jamb on the 1/4 pillar. the metal tag is the one on the dash. (not replaceable)(legally) phred
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i believe the cars up to 71 had metal tags on the drivers door, the sticker tags were 72 + in the drivers door jamb on the quarter panel marti can repop both the sticker type and the metal door tags
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70 was the 1st year of sticker (he has it pictured) phred
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This is probably a better site to get the info you are looking for:  http://www.torinocobra.com/main1.htm
Bood luck and sorry for your loss.  Paul~
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Got the Marti report, shows a 429 V4 engine, sport roof with Traction-Lok Differential. As it sits now it has the shaker set-up with louvers; I assume this means the shaker and louvers were added later--correct? It also has short chains on part of the suspension, anyone know what those are about?

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 nice looking car
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chains are likely travel limiters. the data plate might be found in a tool box, with documentation pertaining to the car or in personal effects?

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Alas, no luck finding the door tag but here is that info from the Marti report.
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The car looks great.  It has the "N" Code 429, which is the 360 hp "Thunderjet" engine.  This was the least powerful of the three 429 options in 1970.  It also means that it didn't have the shaker hood setup originally either. From the Marti is has a few nice options, like the console, traction lok and the laser stripes.
It's too bad the engine is out of the car.  This hurts the value by not having it as a runner.  It might be worthwhile to install the drivetrain and get it running if you have the time and skills.  You might be better off to install the original engine and sell off the 460 separately if you are looking for the most money.
 
I checked Hagerty and it does list your 1970 Torino GT Sportsroof with 360 hp 429.  They value the car at $18000 but that's the average price and for a runner.  I do think the Hagerty prices are a bit low.  It might not be out of line to ask somewhere in that neighbourhood for your car as it sits now.   Hemmings classifieds has a few 1970 Torinos listed as well, although some of the dealer listings seem to be hugely inflated.
 
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I wanted to thank everyone for all the info and help,I learned a lot about the car from this forum and from the Torino nuts who inspected the car. We have an offer pending on the car now. Unfortunately we were never able to visualize the engine number on the block, and we did find a bit of rust repair in a wheelwell. Hopefully it will have a good home now with an owner who will be able to finish the project that my uncle started. Thanks everyone! Ed H
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Originally posted by Edh308 Edh308 wrote:

I wanted to thank everyone for all the info and help,I learned a lot about the car from this forum and from the Torino nuts who inspected the car. We have an offer pending on the car now. Unfortunately we were never able to visualize the engine number on the block, and we did find a bit of rust repair in a wheelwell. Hopefully it will have a good home now with an owner who will be able to finish the project that my uncle started. Thanks everyone! Ed H
 
I hope the sale goes through.  I am glad we could help you out.
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That is a beautiful ride. Hope the new owner joins the board. Best of luck and thanks for sharing his story.

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Thanks again to everyone on the forum. I have learned a lot about Torinos and it's been ery helpful. The car is going to a good home, to be finished as a father-son project that hopefully will be a great muscle car for the next generation of classic car fans.
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